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Suppose that you are a member of a team of readers deciding whether Saki’s story should be included in a textbook. Create a blog that will allow readers to respond to the following:
(1) Tell why you think the story will or will not appeal to high school student,
(2) give at least two reasons for your opinion
(3) describe how the story compares with two other stories you have read.
I believe that this short story written by Saki will appeal to high school students because it shows that in times of trouble, enemies can put apart their differences to cooperate with each other to get out of them. I think this story will appeal to high school students because maybe some students are living through this, they might have "eternal rivals" or enemies, and by reading this story, they could change their minds and become friends.
ResponderEliminarA story that could be compared to The Interlopers, by Saki would be Romeo and Juliet, by William Shakespeare. In both the short story and the play, two families (the von Gradwitz’s and the Znaeym’s; the Montague’s and the Capulet’s) have feudal problems and hate each other. In The Interlopers, Ulrich and Georg both put their differences apart and try to work together to call for help to release them from where they are. In Romeo and Juliet, both families also leave their differences aside and try to stop fighting and arguing, just after both Romeo and Juliet die.
Another story that could be compared to The Interlopers, by Saki would be The Most Dangerous Game, by Richard Connell. Both short stories’ settings are located in a forest or jungle-like place. In The Interlopers, the setting is a forest in the Carpathians, and in The Most Dangerous Game, the setting is a jungle in the Ship-Trap Island. Both stories involve hunting. In The Interlopers, Georg hunts in Ulrich’s land, and in The Most Dangerous Game, General Zaroff hunts in his island. They also have to do with the main characters being in great danger. Sanger Rainsford, Ulrich von Gradwitz and Georg Znaeym are all in situations of great danger, in which they could die. Both stories have quarrels. In The Interlopers, both families have disputes because of land issues, and in The Most Dangerous Game, Rainsford and General Zaroff end their friendship as a result of disagreement because General Zaroff hunts and murders humans.
David Tsui
Block F
I think the story should not appear on a high school textbook. It displays a strong sense of hate for no reason, which is insane. There is also the use of an alcoholic beverage. Students in high school aren´t allowed drinking alcohol. So why make them read about people that just before they die drink? Even though I love the ending, imagine two men being eaten alive by hungry wolves. It´s just the most sickening situation I can imagine. I read “Life of Pi” and it has a similar ending. A hungry French guy eats Pi´s mother in front of him. You need to consider that the story has a totally different focus. In “Life of Pi” it also talked about religion and his life visiting the zoo, and his life in the raft. In the Interlopers, it is just about their hate, and when they become friends they are eaten by wolves! I also read another story by Edgar Alan Poe. He was so gothic. He wrote about killing a person and all the planning he made for it. He wrote about it in such a sick way. As if it was “ok” to kill a person.
ResponderEliminarIgnacio Cordoba
Block F
i disagree with you Ignacio one because when you read Edgar Allen stories you have to think about what he was going through at the time and in the interlopers once that tree fell on them they could've died instantly but they didn't so they could make things right and two when you brought the irrelevant point about them drinking and yes students in high school cannot drink but high school students can understand and be mature enough to realize that the two men in the story were full grown adults so you are looking at this wrong mentally and morally
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EliminarSir, I see your point of view.. I understand from where you are coming from. But although they are drinking alcohol, it isn't influencing teenagers to drink. I'm pretty sure that 9th-12th graders are mature enough to know that they shouldn't be drinking. That and their hatred for each other? They do have a reason. They have been fighting for 3 generation...So I'm assuming that the land is pretty important to them. That.. and kids now-a-days are watching Twilight.. Which involves werewolves eating the flesh off of Vampires.. So it's sorta the same situation. (Even though it's all just a movie.) That and most kids already drink and do drugs, (Like, 7th graders)
EliminarThere isn't anything that was mentioned in the story that most kids don't already know.
-Victoria.
Ignacio,
EliminarI know everyone has their opinions but, here's my point of view of yours....
1) no one is allowed to drink (unless at the age of 21)
2) their families have been fighting for 3 generations (due to a law suit that apparently didn't end well)
3) these men probably thought they were going to live, that their own group would save them. so how i see it is they drank to be comfortable
But i do have to ask, what does Edgar Allen Poe and "life of pi" have to do with "the interlopers"?
The following story is approved to be included in the textbook. This story is able to be in the textbook because it shows a great example of how to end a huge fight between families. This is an excellent example to high school students of how disputes should be ended, and how survival is important. This story is very similar to “The Most Dangerous Game”, because at the beginning of the story it speaks about the both persons looking for each other to kill each other. It is also similar to “Being Prey” at the ending of the story, because they are about to be eaten by the 7 wolfs. This is a great book for studying a section, because if the 2 previous stories are read first, it would be great for the students to relate this story with the others and understand it better.
ResponderEliminarAgustin Cuadra
Block A
I believe The Interlopers by Saki should be included in a textbook. The story's themes are very interesting and peculiar. The story's contexts are very likely going to appeal to high school students.
ResponderEliminarThe ironic endings very surprising and I guarantee it will catch a student's attention. Families' feuds are common in literature and they usually are resolved by a tragedy or catastrophe.The story gives us a different perspective in fate.
Another reason I recommend this story to high school students is because some students may be living a similar situation and believe an enemy cannot become a friend. This is a story of forgiveness and reconciliation. The reader may learn while reading how important it is to forgive and love.
The story's themes are very similar to the ones in Shakespeare's play "Romeo and Juliet". In both stories a tragedy or accident had to occur to unite the enemies. The death of the lovers in the play ended the feud between their families, and the accident that happened in the disputed forest ended the feud between the characters in the story.
This story is also similar to many stories from the Victorian era (an example is Wuthering Heights). Feuds between families were common, an what literature from those times leads us to believe is that they were often resolved by some tragedy that lead them to unite in times of sorrow and pain.
Valeria Villero
Block F
Written:October 31, 2009
Posted: November 4, 2009
I think that this story is an excellent selection for a high school literature book because students enjoy it. Students enjoy few of the texts that they have to read in class. They might find them boring, to complicated, or they just do not understand. I know this because I’ve been there. I find Saki’s story entertaining and easy to understand. I think these two elements solve some of the problems for high school students: they understand the text, and they don’t get bored along the way. This story can compare to many other stories we have read in class, for example, “Being Prey”. I know that this is an incredible story and that it is hard to believe but it is to long for what it says. The story could be told in two sentences: A crocodile chew off my leg. I survived. That’s it; nobody cares about the other details. Nobody cares where she was. Nobody cares what type of Indian carvings was she headed to. The story needs to be to the point and keep you entertained. Every sentence has to count. This is perfectly shown in “The Interlopers” since every detail is contributing and important to the plot of the story. This story can compare to “The Most Dangerous Game”. Everyone liked this story since it is in a way similar to “The Interlopers”. The story was exiting, it had suspense, it had a surprise ending, and every detail was important. In “Being Prey” you could easily predict what was going to happen next. These are the reasons why I believe that “The Interlopers” is an excellent selection for the book.
ResponderEliminarEsteban Oreamuno
I think the story will appeal to high school students for various reasons. First of all it is about something that we can all relate to. It is about two guys who are rivals. We all have, have had or will eventually have rivals in our lives. It teaches that when we are not in th ebest situations we don´t care who are rivals are, who we like or who we don´t in order to survive. It is at worst times trhat we realize if it is really true that this person is our rival. It will also appeal to high school students because it is short, We don´t really enjoy reading a lot in textbooks so this story has a perfect length. Besides, it has a surprise ending and many people enjoy surprise endings. Therefore it should be included in a textbook
ResponderEliminarThis story can be related with the Twilight Saga because the Warewolves´and the Cullen´s had always been enemies and even had a treaty to not get into each others´lands. When they realize that they have a common enemy they set apart their differences and fight together. Then, they realize that they can really get along. You can also compare this book with ¨Two Way Street¨ by Lauren Barnholdt. Courtney completely and absolutely hates Jotdan for leaving her for some girl he met in MySpace. At the end when she realizes why he lied about it and why he did it, she understands. They set aside their differences and they forgive each other.
I believe this story is really appealing to high school students because it teaches useful lessons for life. The story teaches us that people should not fight for material reasons or goods and that we should always look for peace as soon as any conflict starts. These two leaders could never have peace between their families and when they reached it, it was too late, because they were probably eaten by the wolves. Another lesson the story teaches us is that it is possible to become friends with our most hated enemies. We always have to give ourselves a chance of knowing people better before hating them.
ResponderEliminarThis story is similar to "The Most Dangerous Game" written by Richard Conell, because they are both related to hunting issues. The main characters of both stories are involved in dangerous situations. Also characters in both stories experience a change in their way of thinking. In the "Interlopers" Ulrich and Georg change the way they thought about each other and in " The Most Dangerous Game" Rainsford changes his way of thinking about hunting, when he experiences what being hunted feels like.
Felipe Calderón
Block D
Manrique Leiva
ResponderEliminarNovember 5, 2009
Block D
“The Interlopers” will appeal to high school students because it can give us a good insight of what having bitter enemies can become. The story clearly states that having an enemy is a waste of time end energy, it just leads to a situation in which nobody wins. Having enemies will only lead us into feelings of hatred which ultimately will lead us to a dead end. We also have to take in account that if we do have a bitter enemy and we both decide to make amends because of a particular situation, it can be too late, just the way it happened to Ulrich and Georg in the story. “The Interlopers” distinctively shows that having enemies can only lead us to disaster. Instead, high school students need to understand that having friends will always take us to better places.
“The Most Dangerous Game” can be compared to “The Interlopers” because in both stories there is a passion for human hunting and a thrill for the game of killing one another. This was portrayed by Zaroff and Rainsford (in “The Most Dangerous Game”); just the way Georg and Ulrich portray it in Saki’s story. In both stories, the consequences of the feeling of hatred and thirst for blood were disastrous. Another story comparable to “The Interlopers” is “Being Prey”. Although Plumwood was not involved in any situation of hatred with personal enemies she becomes a distinct prey of a fierce crocodile, just like Georg and Ulrich became prey of wolves in the ironic ending of Saki’s story.
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ResponderEliminarAntonio González
ResponderEliminarNovember 5 2009
Block B
Blog
This story “The Interlopers”, does appeal for high school students because it gives a message that even the worst enemy can become a friend. The vocabulary that the story contains makes it perfect for high school students. All though the story has a simple problem and it is very short, it expresses actions and feelings of the main characters that leave an important message. As I said before, worst enemies can become friends. The story has a complex understanding and we have to pay close attention to what is being read. Therefore the story does appeal perfectly to high school students.
A story I read called the Most Dangerous Game is about a man who hunts men instead of animals just like the Interlopers. Both settings take place in wildlife. The Most Dangerous Game takes place in a jungle island called Ship Trap Island. Zaroff, the owner of the island hunts men. He does this because he likes hunting and he was bored of hunting animals. It relates with this story because in both stories hunting is involved. But animals aren’t really being hunted. The ones being hunted are the humans. Both stories create suspense.
Another story I read was Being Prey. This story is a real life story. It compares with The Interlopers because both involve preys. In both stories the preys are the humans. In the Interlopers, it ends up that both Ulrich and Georg end up being the wolves’ prey. In Being Prey the narrator is the prey of the alligator. Also both settings of the stories are also in wildlife. With all this said about the Interlopers, this book does appeal for high school students.
Pedro de Matheu
ResponderEliminarNovember 5, 2009
Block A
Saki`s story is a great story for high school students. It is short and uses a simple language, that keeps the reader interested. Also it help high school students learn that fights or feuds do not bring anything positive, they only bring harm and suffering to everybody. An the author teach the reader these, in a way he/she can keep focus and enjoying the reading.
These story has a very important theme that has been forgotten by time. Is that war or fights, only make harm and cause destruction, an it does not make scene to make peace at the end, is better to maintain a peaceful life to really enjoy the moments. Also high school students, can learn new styles of writing, also how to use themes to create a simple story, and dynamic story that keeps the reader interested and that the reader learns something positive. Also it helps us know how to describe in a better way characters and places.
These story can be compared with ``The Most Dangerous game`` by Richard Conell both stories show how humans are so destructive, and harm many people because is our nature . In the story the``Most dangerous game`` General Zaroff entertains by first killing animals and then killing humans, he finds a new prey Rainsford he hunt him, and at the end Zaroff dies. In the `` Interlopers`` there are 2 men that hate each other and because of their hate, they cause themselves to get killed. Both stories show how we humans are so self destructive, only to harm others. It can also be compared to ``Romeo and Juliet`` by William Shakespeare, these novel is about 2 families that have a feud that had been existing for many years, and one day Romeo from the Montague and Juliet from the Capulet meet. They fall in love but their love can not exist, at the end they both die looking for each other. These shows how family feuds only bring troubles and suffer to the next generation.
arturo sotela
ResponderEliminarnovember 6 2009
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Tell why you think the story will or will not appeal to high school students
It would appeal to high school students because I think there are some enemies around us but each enemy can make friends.
Give at least two reasons for your opinion
If the best warlords in the world which are enemies they might become friends making the best army to protect this world to which is outside ours. If the best teams in the world might come together they would be the champions of this world, no more people fighting about who is going to win, like being high school students we can make a difference by changing who we are and making friends
Describe how the story compares with two other stories you have read.
The alchemist he makes friends with the big black guy with the sword, and the most dangerous game they are first friends but then enemies.
Jose pablo murillo
ResponderEliminarnovember 6
block A
The story the Interlopers should be included in the textbook. The students of the school can be related to the story. In the school, there are bullies, different levels of economy and that makes the students feel superior to others and may get to hate them. People get bullied every day, it is difficult for the schools to end this conflicts, sometimes instead to ask for adult’s help, the student decided to fight the bully for his own.
Two stories that go with this problem of rivalry are The Most Dangerous Game and Romeo and Juliet. In Romeo and Juliet, the two main families hate each other, but after Romeo and Juliet die, the families become friends and never fight again. In The Most Dangerous Game, Rainsford and Zaroff have a friendship that later end because of the differences they have bout hunting together real people and kill them.
Natalia Ulloa
ResponderEliminarSunday, November 01, 2009
Block D
The Interlopers Blog
The Interlopers is been debated whether or not it should appear in a textbook. I think this story should be included in the textbook. This story is interesting and pleasurable to read. Also, it is easy to read for teenagers to understand the vocabulary and not get lost in the context of the story. The Interlopers also makes teenagers reflex about their personal life. Do they have a personal enemy? Do they even want their enemies to become their friends? The Interlopers is telling the reader for a possible way to not be indifferent to each other and become pals. Many teenagers find themselves caught up in social-group problems, and do not know the way to correct them. But if they find a common problem, perhaps they can reunite for the cause.
So why, really, does The Interlopers has to be included in the textbook? The Interlopers is a story of suspense. Teenagers usually love suspense. Not only does it create excitement when Georg and Ulrich are caught beneath a tree, it also makes the reader think of what would happen if they were there. Another reason for the story to be incorporated in the textbook would be that it provides a lesson to the reader. The lesson would be that is no good to have an enemy when that enemy could perfectly be your friend. You will never know how well you get along with your enemy if you never try. Last, The Interlopers presents the reader a way to solve their problems: find a common base; something that you two (or more) can relate to. Usually, when you find yourself caught up in a problem that your enemies share, it would be easier to relate to your enemies because they understand what you’re feeling, too.
This story compares to other stories I’ve read. One story would be Eclipse (Twilight Saga). In Eclipse, Jacob, the werewolf, is in love with Bella, the human, who is in love with Edward, the vampire, who also loves her back. Edward and Jacob absolutely loathe each other. But when they find out that Bella is in great danger, Edward and Jacob make some sort of agreement to save Bella. The Maybe they didn’t become pals until after later on, but they were able to set aside their differences and help someone they loved. Another story I’ve read that relates to The Interlopers is Catching Fire (Hunger Games Trilogy). When Katniss find out that she will have to go to the Quarter Quells with Peeta, Gale, the boy that loves her, tries to help them out with snares. And even though Gale hates Peeta because he’s the pretend lover of Katniss, he still has to overcome his hate to help them both.
Comment on Arturo's: I think you're right about people not having to fight to win.
Comment of Agustin's: I think you're right to think that disputes should not happen wiht enemies.
Comment on Manrique's: I think you're right about nobody winning at the end if you're fighting all the time.
Johan Siri
ResponderEliminar6 november
BLock A
This story should be in the high school textbook.The story is very interesting to read because it has some lessons that people could learn. It tells about how problems should and should not be solved also it tell a lot about how to survive problems. But the most important could be that people create their own future. Every action in peoples life has an effect in our future. If their families would have never had that dispute maybe they would have never been in he forest and would have never been killed by the wolves. ALso it shows the iron that people would have never imagined beause it ever occurs. Nomaly people solve their problems and that is the ending but this story they solve their problems and then they are killed by the wolves. This kind of ending might or will atract the readers anttention.
The story is very similar to some of the stories we have read like Being prey because it shows a lot of how to survive to different events. And also it is similar to The Most Dangerous Game because the events in both stories of how two people try to kill each other in order to survive relates it a lot. And also because when those events happen the reader wants to keep reading. Even though the endings are different.
Agustin comment. He is right with what he is saying because it really shows how to solve certein disputes
Valeria comment. She is right when she is saying that the irony that occurs in the ending attracts the reader atention
Natalia Ulloa. She is right when she says that if eople want their enemies as pals. And that people should not be indiferent and just be friends.
Nicole Skaf
ResponderEliminarNovember 1st, 2009
Block A
Blog “The Interlopers”
I think that this story will appeal to many high school students because in high school years, teenagers confront many “enemies” and then become best friends like Georg and Ulrich. This story will also get there attention by making them reflect in the good and bad of people, because many times our judgments are wrong or hate has always been building up between students.
This story is not like the others because it narrates the building of friendship amongst to feuds who have hated each other forever and then are both caught up in the same situation, helping each other. But in other stories, enemies always end up fighting and trying to kill one another or one loosing the other winning. For example in the story of David and Goliath, Goliath a giant with a powerful army wants to invade and attack the Israelis, and a young boy from the Israelis challenges Goliath to a man to man fight. Goliath accepts because he thinks that there is no way for David to win. As they approach each other David shoots a small rock with his arrow and hits Goliath in the forehead. David is then crowned as the King of Israel.
It is very different from The Interlopers because David or Goliath does not hesitate to kill each other. As in The Interlopers, Ulrich and Georg both come to an agreement and become friends.
The story of Romeo and Juliet resembles to feudal families hating each other and finally killing members of the opposites. In the Interlopers, even though the two neighbors hate each other to death and even guard out in the night the strip, they don’t kill their family members.
MY COMMENTS
David Tsui: He is definitely right because high school students who might read this story and may be going through the same situation might realize that enemies have common interests and overcome the hatred that they mutually have.
Ignacio Cordoba: Even though he has a different point of view from the rest, what he wrote is actually true because it’s a hate that should not be present between these two neighbors. But it should appear in the text book because it teaches a lesson to those who hate someone or have an enemy.
Valeria: The theme of this story is important and interesting. The reason why this is, is because many stries that contain enemies usually end up fighting. But in this story fate brings them togher and makes them realize that the hate they once had should be forgotten and that they should instead help each other.
Nathalie Skaf
ResponderEliminarNovember 1, 2009
Block A
This story appeals to high school students since fighting amongst each other is a common topic for high school students. Normally in high school, students start competing for grades, and also for the attention, but they can become friends and let go of their differences. I know of two reasons that can clearly show how enemies can let go of their differences to become friends.
Even though people some times don’t get along too well, they have to let go of their differences and fight together against a common enemy. Another reason why enemies will let go of their differences and become friends is when they realize they are so similar, they hate the other because that’s what they hate in themselves.
The Interlopers is similar to the story called The Most Dangerous Game and to The Monkey’s Paw. In The Most Dangerous Game, the two main characters become friends because they have a common interest: hunting. The Monkey’s Paw is similar to The Interlopers because in both stories, the authors use foreshadowing to create suspense.
VALERIA: i agree with valeria that usually family fueds are resolved by a tragedy or catastrophe, but in this story it is ended differently. It ends because after both men are pinned down under a tree they start talking and realize that they have more similarities than differences.
NICOLE: I do agree with the idea that nicole wrote about. She says that most stories that have feuds are not ended but this one is different because Ulrich and Georg become friends.
NATALIA: i think natalia is totally right because the story doesn't use complex words and it is easy for students to read it. I also agree with her on that students can use this story to think about their own personal problems on the topic.
As I read this story I started to connect it with my own life. I am a high school student and this is the time in our lives when we have more enemies. Have you ever me a teenager that doesn´t hate someone? The high school years, are the years when us teenagers have lots of disagreements or problems with other people. They can be dumb, but teenagers are complicated. I am very sure that any teenager who reads this story would be able to relate it a little with their lives. This is one reason why I believe a high scholar would like this story. Another reason why someone of this age would enjoy it is because there is nothing better than the unexpected. Everyone enjoys suspense and things that are unexpected. Teenagers, specially, would like this ending because it is very exciting and it is something that you wouldn´t imagine.
ResponderEliminarIf I compare this to other stories I have read, I could say this story is very original. Normally, in enemy stories, there is a victorious one. In this story, neither of the two wins. Completely the opposite of something that we would expect happens. First of all, they become friends and second, they both end up in danger. In all of the other stories that have enemies in it, they normally don´t end up being friends.
COMMENTS.
natalia: Even though I did not include your idea in my response, I believe you are correct. Students like us like simple, clear stories direct to the point, no complications.
david tsui: I think the same as you. As I said in my response, high school students can connect this story to their own lives since they may be going through the same problems.
Ignacio: Even though your way of thinking is different from mine, i still believe you are right since each can interpret the story differently.
isabela rivera
block B
Felipe Sanabria
ResponderEliminarNovember 1st, 2009
Block D
Blog
Saki’s story, The Interlopers, should appear in high school textbooks because it would appeal most of the students who read it. The story is appealing because of it’s lesson and suspense. The lesson the story teaches it’s readers is that of friendship in spite of the differences that separates the main characters, who are enemies but when found in a situation harmful for both of them, they become friends and decide to save each other if possible. The writer also adds suspense to the story by putting both characters face to face and armed in the midst of an awkward silence. The ending of the book also creates suspense because it seems as if they are going to be rescued but their “rescuers” happen to be wolves ready to kill them.
The story is different to other I have read because of the way character manage to overcome their differences. In this story, it took a life and death situation for a friendship to be settled. In other stories I have read, friendships are settled happily and innocently, and could be referred to as naïve. Saki’s story demonstrates his talent and teaches lessons important for high school students, being the reason why they should appear in school textbooks.
Natalia: I agree that the story's simple vocabulary makes it an easy read,but it is important that the students are challenged in order to improve their vocabulary
David T: I agree that the book should be in high school textbooks according to your comment on it helping students settle their differences peacefully.
Arturo: You're right when you mention two strong enemies combining into an even stronger team and obtain victories, I agree with you.
Elisa Finol
ResponderEliminarNovember 2, 2009
Block D
In high school, gossip, fights, enemies, and friends are a big part of a student’s social life. The story, “The Interlopers,” is about this exact topic: enemies and friends. The story shows that someone is thirsty for an enemy’s blood can forgive, and even become friends, with this person. However, “The Interlopers” is not the only story whose topic is enemies who become friends. Many stories throughout time have touched upon this very same topic, and each one has a different way of portraying the same story.
High school students would enjoy this book because it could help with something a student is going through. For instance, two female students might have a lifelong hatred for each other, and this hatred might have become even bigger because both liked the same male student. It could be possible that after both of these girls bonded because they are both on the cheerleading team, that they have actually become friends.
This story can be compared to many other stories of hatred that ends with a friendship. For example, in the well-known story of Romeo and Juliet, the Montagues and the Capulets are in a feud over power. This feud only ends after each side has been internal wounded by the loss of their only children. This can be compared to “The Interlopers” when both sides only become friends after they are pinned to the ground and injured by a large tree.
This story can also be compared to “The Most Dangerous Game” because both stories have characters that have a great desire to kill. Another similarity is that both of the stories end in a tragic death, such as Zaroff’s, Georg’s, and Ulrich’s deaths.
Andrés Porras
ResponderEliminar11/1/09
Block C
The story should not appear on a high school textbook. It is not exciting and it does not contain any information of interest to high school students. The characters are trapped by nature, and they can do nothing about it. They do not take much actions, they do not make any decisions; they only go out and hunt. There are almost no descriptions or explanations, only that Ulrich and Georg hate each other, they always have, and because of a feud. So it will not appeal to high school students because it is a boring story with no subjects of interests to high school students.
This story compares to “Romeo and Juliet” and “The Most Dangerous Game”. It is similar to “Romeo and Juliet” because both of their families are in a feud. Also, as the story goes on, they become friends. At the end, in both stories the two main characters die. It relates to “The Most Dangerous Game” because the characters like to hunt. Afterwards, they try to hunt each other. Therefore, the story relates to “Romeo and Juliet” because they have a feud and they die, and to “The Most Dangerous Game” because they are two hunters trying to kill each other.
COMMENTS
Johan: I disagree, because the author doesn't think "we create our own future", he thinks that it is written in stone and that is is unchangeable. It also doesn't each us how to survive problems, becuse they both die.
Felipe Calderon: I thik you are right about getting to know people before hating them. We have to get to know people before we judge them.
Alejandro Godinez: I think we should try to make friendships with our enemies, but not with everyone. We have to get to know people and then we see if they are worth being friends with or not.
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ResponderEliminarDaniella Kopper
ResponderEliminarBlock B
I think the story would appeal to high school students. This is a phase were teenagers start to have problems with their friends and enemies start rising. It is important to learn how to solve conflicts and find ways to reconcile. Also, for students to know that enemies can become friends by overcoming differences and if they are given a chance.
This story can be compared with “The Dangerous Game”. In both stories killing is present. In the Dangerous Game there is the hunting of people and need of killing others. On this story there is the killing for hate or revenge because of a family feud. Also, there are is a difference between the two stories. On this story the enemies try to overcome their differences and become friends. However, on the Dangerous Game, they don’t solve their problems and ends with assassination. It can also be compared with “Romeo and Juliet”. On both stories there is present a family feud. This feud creates on both families hate and death.
Comments:
Elisa: I strongly agree with the fact that in high school gossips, enemies, friends and fights are a big part of student´s social life. For that reason I believe this story would appeal to high school students. I also think it would really help students.
Isabela: I also think I can connect this with my life. I agree with you completely. This is a time were we face a lot of this situations.
Felipe: I also believe that this story teaches an important lesson. People can overcome their problems and bond when they found themselves in a dangerous situation.
Lucia Soley
ResponderEliminarBlock A
Monday November 2nd, 2009
THE INTERLOPERS
“The Interlopers” is a story which probably wouldn’t appeal to many high school students at the beginning. It has two people who hate each other, afterwards fight, and then become friends. Although it might become appealing when the story begins to end. This is because the story has an ending which you wouldn’t expect. And this unexpected ending is what makes students get into these types of stories. The problem which it does have, is that only the ending is like the catchy part, so probably many students would get bored in the middle of the story.
This story is similar to two other very commonly read books. One of them is the story of Romeo and Juliet. Although it doesn’t have a direct similarity with their personal love story, it does have it with a part of it, which is the constant fight that they have between each other’s families. In the story of Romeo and Juliet, there is also a family conflict, which makes two people basically hate each other even though they don’t know each other.
The other story which is similar to this one is in the twilight. In twilight Edward and Bella aren’t able to be officially together because Bella is a human, and Edward a vampire. According to Edwards perception of life he should be eating humans, and not caring about them, and it is against his beliefs to be with a human, and because of his immortality, he isn’t able to be Bella’s boyfriend. In this story it is similar, because once again just by genes consequences they can’t be together.
comment on natalia's> natalia i do believe that you are correct by saying that it is good for a high school text book because the language use isn't very high.
manrique: i agree with the fact that you said that people who are always fighting all the time are the end might not ein anything at all.
nicole: I do agree with you with the idea that in most stories at the end family feuds never end.
Emilia Garcia
ResponderEliminar11/7/2009
Block A
Tell why you think the story will or will not appeal to high school students? I think the story will appeal with high school students because well, first there are things we can relate to. The story is about two guys who are rivals. We all have had rivals in our lives. The story teaches that when we are not in the best situations we don’t care who are our rivals, we don’t care if they survive or not. Sometimes we realize that people we think that are our rivals could be completely our friends. Sometimes they are enemies and very deeply you are really alike and.
Give at least two reasons for your opinion, and? Because they can understand and apply from the story to their personal life that they learn that they have to get along with everyone. And also because they may learn that not always enemies have to fight.
Describe how the story compares with two other stories you have read. This story can be related to the twilight saga. Which is about a vampire and a werewolf and they have been enemies all along. And they can’t get into each other lands. Then they have to fight against some other enemy they both have and they unite and fight against them.
Comments:
David Tsui: I agree because High School students might me going through a same situation, and while reading the story realize that there are some people who you could get along with and you have never tried because you thought they were your enemies.
Johan Siri:
I agree with what you said that every decision you take has an effect.
Felipe Calderon:
I think you are right about getting to know people before hating them. Many of us just hate people because of the way they look or dress or just the way they seem to be but you don't actually get to know them.
The story will appeal to high school students because it’s a story that relates to many real life situations especially with teenagers. Since many high school students have problems such as enemies, this story could make them change their view as well as the protagonists of “The Interlopers”. They could interiorize what happens in the story and try to live it and make it real in their life. Another reason why it would appeal to high school students is because it would be one more reason to believe differences are not a reason to fight, they can be resolved and instead find similarities and excuses to be friends like Georg and Ulrich became.
ResponderEliminarTwo other stories that can be compared to “The Interlopers” are “Being Prey” and “The Most Dangerous Game” because they both have enemies to deal with during the story. In “Being Prey” the enemies have a fight in which one wants to kill the other and as they fight, the prey is released and even if it’s not shown, the protagonist’s enemy let go of her as if he was accepting to stop the fight. In “The Most Dangerous Game”, the two enemies fight for their life as one kills the other. The one difference between the stories is that in this one the protagonist kills General Zaroff as a way of stopping the harm he did. They couldn’t be friends, but the story does resemble “The Interlopers” with the constant rivalry they handled throughout the story.
Ariana Echeverri
Block A
My 3 Comments:
Isabela Rivera: Right, teenagers are complicated and i completely agree that we all have someone we hate, but suddenly with this story we realize differences can be left out and become best friends with the person you least expected.
Elisa Finol: I do think thatthere are many reasons to hate each other in high school, and the stories we have read (The Most Dangerous Game) that end with tragedy on both sides are for readers to realize the friendship the could never share. But, we in reality can get along and hopefully still dont get tragedy among us.
Agustin Cuadra: I totally think the same way you do since I belive this is an example to foolow along. It teaches us how to end fight and how the simplest danger can bring to enemies together.
This story will appeal to high school students.
ResponderEliminarIt will appeal to them because it is a suspense story. The situation is unusual, two men that hate each other go to a forest to kill each other. We can foreshadow that one of them is going to change their mind when one offers the other to drink from his flask of wine. There is an ironic device, wolves came instead of their men. There is a dilemma, both men are squished under a tree. Also, the story’s ending is ambiguous, we do not know if the wolves eat the men or not.
The other reason it will appeal to high school students is that the story leaves a lesson behind it. Hatred will lead to nothing in life. Hatred is pointless and a waste of time. The men in the story instead of hating each other for three generations could have built things and started a friendship, but blinded by their own families Ulrich and Georg could not think out of the box and did not look for friendship.
One story I can compare The Interlopers is The Giver by Louis Lowry. In The Giver, the ending is a suspenseful one because it is ambiguous. Jonas, the protagonist and Gabriel get to another town or Jonas and Gabriel die hallucinating in the snow. In The Interlopers the ending is also ambiguous, we know that wolves are coming but we are not given enough details if the wolves eat them or the men come just in time to save the protagonists.
Another story that compares to is Romeo and Juliet. In Romeo and Juliet in the scene where both families find Romeo and Juliet in the crypt, they set apart their differences and become friends at the horror when they find the corpses in the crypt. Because of this hatred Romeo and Juliet died in vain, if they did not hate each other they could have been alive. This is a clear example that hate leads to nothing.
COMMENTS:
felipe sanabria: you are right, the lesson of the story and the suspense it creates, appeals to us, high school students.
manrique: You are completely right, hate-hate realationships are situations in which time and energy are wasted and nobody wins.
felipe calderon: The lesson provided by Saki in this short story is really useful for life, like you said in your comment. People should not be fighting for material things, and as soon as a conflict starts people should look for a peaceful solution to it.
miguel madrigal
block F
Dominique Lara
ResponderEliminarNovember 7, 2009
Block D
In my opinion, Saki’s story “The Interloper” was a great story. This story should be in a textbook for the knowledge of high school students. This story can make high school students realize many things about friendship and how family feuds can be. Some high school students have not gone through problems like that. They should be aware the unnecessary things that may happen with problems like these.
High school students have a lot of problems with friends. Friends and enemies are a big part of the students’ social life. In this story, it shows that people shouldn’t be friends just because there is a family feud going on. In the story, when they started talking, they started to realize that their hate was unnecessary and they did not really know why they hated each other. High school students should know the true meaning of a friend. If your best friend is in an enemy family, people should not avoid them. The problems are between the adults or even from the ancestors and the people from the families do not really know each other. Another reason is that high school students need to learn that you cannot hate someone for no reason. In the story, their hate was confusing. This is why the story should be in a textbook for all high school students to read.
I can compare this story with Romeo and Juliet. This whole play is about love that Romeo and Juliet have and the problems they had to face because of the opposing families. In Romeo and Juliet, there is also a big family feud. It is also because of power like from lands. In both stories, the enemies become friends in the end. In the Interlopers, the characters realize the useless hate between themselves in which they don’t even know each other. In Romeo and Juliet, when the tragedy happens, the families realize that their problems caused the tragedies to happen and become friends. They both have similar problems. Another story that can be compared with The Interloper is the Twilight saga. Many of the problems are between other vampire vampires like the Volturi. They need to stay away from each other but visits still occur. At the end, even though they are not friends, they have like a pact so they are in peace. This is a problem between vampire families but the difference is that they did not become friends. They just stopped fighting but there is still hate.
Comments:
Elisa Finol: I agree with you. Your friends and your enemies are a big part of ones social life during high school. Romeo and Juliet is a very good example of enemies and how they become friends. I think that "The Most Dangerous Game" is not a very good example because the reasons to kill were different because one is for hate and the otehr si for fun.
David Tsui: i agree with you in everything. High school students can connect with the sotry because they have the same problems. There are some people you don't even know that may be your friend after all.
Felipe Calderón: I also think that the lesson given in the story is useful in life. Peaceful solutions should me made also.
My comments:
ResponderEliminarIgnacio Cordoba: I disagree this story shows reasonless hate, it is a story of forgiveness. They have a reason to hate one another: their families hated each other long before the characters were born. They were taught by their families to hate one another. By forgiving each other they broke everything they were raised to believe.
Johan Siri: I disagree people can shape their own future. The characters fate was to die, no matter if they became friends or not. They couldn’t shape their future. The future is unexpected and no matter what you want to happen, or what you expect, it is very likely going to take you by surprise.
Nathalie Skaf: I agree that sometimes people hate each other because they are very similar, and they see in each other what they hate in themselves. I think this statement is very wise and correct. Sometimes people hate the ones that are the most like them, they are afraid to face themselves, and all the mistakes they have made.
María Luisa Santos
ResponderEliminar11/02/09
Block-C
The Interlopers Response
“The Interlopers” in my opinion is a great story for high school students to read. During adolescence teenagers tend to get into a lot of disputes either with family member, friends or people at school. They are experiencing so much hormonal changes that affect their personality that their feelings are very intense and they act in very impulsive ways. This gets them into a lot of conflicts. “The Interlopers” portrays in a very transparent way how foolish and silly quarrels without reasons are and how it may damage you and people around you with time. After they decide to become friends they talk about how the end of the fight would bring peace among the “forester folk,” and “wonderful changes” to the countryside. This makes teenagers realize how imprudent fighting is.
Another reason why high school students should read this story is that is shows how nature rules over everything. This is shown two times: first when the trees fall over the men, and then when at the end they are eaten by the wolves. What Saki is trying to evoke with this is that the two families quarreled for decades over which would own the land and that at the end that land didn’t even belonged to them it belonged to mother nature. That nature even rules over laws of society and land titles. Even when the Gradwitzs said that the Znaeyms were the intruders in their land they were actually too.
I think that nowadays, human kind thinks that we rule over everything, that we are superior because we construct tall building and have cars; we think that the world is ours. But actually nature and wildlife is way more powerful. In just a few minutes a hurricane can destroy a whole city, and in an instant we can be the prey of wolves in a forest. Humans and mostly the young ones who will be the leaders of tomorrow need to learn the importance of nature and wildlife and understand that we are not the most powerful race on Earth.
This is story is similar to some stories I have read in school. First it is similar to Huckleberry Finn because it this story we can also see a family feud between Grangerfords and the Shepherdsons and they also get to the point of such hatred that they want to kill each other. It is also similar to Lord of the Flies because William Golding shows how humans are actually animals and that if they’re exposed to certain circumstances they are going with their animal instincts. This in some way can be related to the superiority of wildlife. That at the end, our instincts are going to dominate us because they play a very important role inside of every one of us. Nature itself is more powerful and influential than humans their selves.
3 comments:
ResponderEliminarIgnacio: I do not agree with you but I found your opinion very interesting. I had never analyzed the story the way you did and I think that it was captivating to hear a different opinion because everyone commented about thinking that the story would appeal to high school students. It made me see the story from a different perspective.
Silvana: I also agree with you that this short story will help us understand and learn of how disputes can be ended. I share your opinion that if we hadn’t had enemies yet we will eventually will so we can relate to this story.
Esteban: It is interesting that you mention that Saki is easy to read and entreating because I hadn’t realize that before but it’s actually true. That makes this story even better for high school students to read.
Ma. Luisa (9-1)
This story does appeal for high school students becasue it shows us how fights can be.We can see how during school many fights occur that affect everybody, and when the fight is stopped , somebody else comes and starts a fight again. We could see how this fight was not personal but it came all through their family and that is one of the worst fights. I believe that high school
ResponderEliminarstudens sometimes have differences, but this is not a reason for not being friends with everybody.
This story can be related with the Drama of Romeo and Juliet because they have a family feud that has been in there society for long time. They both have a lot of power in the 2 stories and the come together in the worst moment, when family members are killed, the same in both. Another story could be the Most Dangerous Game. This can be an example because we could see the hate there can be to hurt someone else or how can fights end.
Pablo Sauma
Comments:
David Tsui: I think you are on the right thing when you said that students that are enemies can be motivated to overcome their differences.
Felipe Calderon: You are right when you said that it dosen't matter the way they look but how a person is from the inside.
Arturo: You have a great point when you said that if two strong people combine it will certainly be much better team rather than having them fight among them.
Maripili Ramos
ResponderEliminar2/11/09
F
I think that the Interlopers by Saki should be included in a textbook because of its main idea about friendship. The story fits perfectly as an advice to high school students through its morality teaching about enemies becoming friends. The characters relationship with each other in this story could open students minds by showing them how easier would be to be friends rather than hating each other. The story message appeals to high school student by making them believe that it doesn’t matter if their families’ hate, they can still be friends. It teaches also how student’s friendship is not chosen by fortune but found in the strangest situations you can ever expect. Sometimes people have bad feelings about others without really knowing them before and suddenly find out how much they have in common in order to create a new friendship.
This story compares to the Twilight Saga and Romeo and Juliet. In the Twilight Saga werewolves and vampires have been mortal enemies for generations. They disgust and wish death to each other as in the Interlopers. At the end they found out they have something in common, the love for Bella, they join as friends to protect the one they love, as Greg and Ulrich find out what they have in common to join as friends. Romeo and Juliet have a similar topic to the Interlopers because it’s about the hate between two families the Montesquieu and the Capulet’s just as the Znaeym and the von Gradwitz. Romeo Montesquieu and Juliet Capulet fall in love and when they both die their families become friends just as Znaeym and a von Gradwitz, two enemies that in a death situation become friends.
Written: October 31, 2009
Posted: November 8, 2009
Comments:
Ignacio Cordoba: I agree with his point of view, there is a strong display of hate for no reason but that is exactly the teaching of the story. The story main idea is about friendship, enemies that hate for no reason and when they suddenly find out how much they have in common they create a new friendship. That is what happens to many high school students, they hate and judge one another for no reason, without knowing the person and when they finally get to know them they realize they have a lot in common and they could have perfectly be friends.
Nathalie Skaf. I agree with your argument, fighting is one of the most common problems of high school students. Students fight for attention and grades, but still they can become friends if they let go their differences, as Nathalie said. I also agree that one of the reason student’s are enemies is because they hate something the other one has. Enemies can hate each other because they are jealous of the others talent or their charisma or even their intelligence, but each student needs to let go their jealousy towards other students and start seeing their own virtues and talents.
Ariana Echeverri: I totally agree with Ariana the story relates to many real life situations especially with high school students. I also agree they story can open student’s minds to change their point of view towards their enemies. Ariana is right; this story teaches that differences are not a reason to fight. Students need to learn to stop finding differences between them and other students, and start finding similarities to become friends.
Roberto Vítola
ResponderEliminarBlock: F
This story should be included in textbooks. This story is about enemies, who become friends. This happens often in schools. Your enemy will always tell you the truth but your friend might hide it. Its how two enemies in hard times help each other and forgive. There is no violence in this story. It is hard to find good stories like this one, that leave behind such a helpfull message.
Students can learn of this situation and apply it to their school lives, and become friends of their enemies. This story could help create a better environment in school where there is less segregation.
This story is very similar to Don Quijote de la Mancha, because Don Quijote became crazy, and the only person who told him was his enemy. After that, they became friends. Another story similar to The Interlopers is Pirates of the Caribbean: Captain Barbosa and Jack Sparrow hated each other, but to survive they united to beat Davy Jones.
This is a really helpful story and should be included in most of the Literaru textbooks so students can read it and use it to help themselves.
Comments:
Paublo: Its good that you point out that fights occur a lot in school. And this story could give a message to stop school fights. Enemies are your true friends.
Maria Luisa: You said that family members had disputes and they were even closer than they think they are. I agree with your opinion.
Dominique: I agree with what Dominique said, this story can help realize many students who their true friends are. Good opinion.
Comments:
ResponderEliminarArturo: I agree with you in the fact that it is better to combine our strength with with others instead of fighting against them.
Manrique: I tink you are right when you say that having enemies is a waste of time and energy. We should use this time to make better friends.
Ignacio:I agree with you when you mention that liquor was not necessary in the story and that it would be much better without it.
Alberto Matamoros
ResponderEliminarNovember 2nd, 2009
9-4
Block: F
The Interlopers Blog
The story The Interlopers by Saki is probably going to appeal high school students. This is because they like reading a funny story and the end of The Interlopers was very surprising and funny in an ironic way. High school students also enjoy feeling suspense, and the suspense at the beginning of the story waiting to see how found the enemy first in the manhunt was entertaining because of its suspense. This story reminds me of two books that I have read. The first one is Charlie and the Chocolate Factory by Roald Dahl because of the irony at the end. At the beginning of the book, Charlie gets a chocolate bar for his birthday and the reader thinks that when he opens the chocolate bar, inside there will be a golden ticket, but there isn’t. The other book The Interlopers reminds me of is Hatchet by Gary Paulsen because of the suspense. On a point in a book, Brian encounters a bear eating from the same berry bush as him, and when the bear notices him, there is a moment of suspense to see if the bear will attack Brian or not.
Comments:
Manrique Leiva: You are right in saying that having enemies is just a waste of time and energy. However I disagree with you and the story in saying that it can be too late to make amends.
Ignacio Cordoba: On most children and grown up stories, there is always someone drinking. However you need to keep it mind that the ones drinking are adults, not underage kids. You are right by saying that imagining what happens after the ending is kind of sick, but on the story, it is never said that the wolves eat them so you cant blame the story for what you think happens after the end.
Felipe Sanabria: I completely agree with you when you say that the story appeals kids because of the suspense created. It is also interesting to see that on some cases, it takes a life and death situation for enemies to become friends.
Oriana Capra Mesalles
ResponderEliminarBlock B/ 9-3
November 2, 2009
I believe the story “The Interlopers” will appeal to high school students. Students will like it, because probably most of them have had a friend that turns out being their enemy or vise versa. Most of the students are going to be able to understand how Urich and Georg feel about each other. It is very likely that people enjoy a story or a novel, when they can identify with it.
Another reason I believe high school students will enjoy reading “The Interlopers”, is because it is a realistic story. The story is developed in a realistic setting, and situation. The story also has suspense.
The story “The Interlopers”, is similar to “The Most Dangerous Game”, because in both stories someone has entered someone else’s property. In other words, in both stories there is an intruder. Also at the beginning of both stories, the characters knew, or at least they thought that one of them was going to end up being killed. Also both stories occur in similar settings; inside a forest and around trees.
“The Interlopers” and “Being Prey” are both stories in which the characters are in difficult situations, waiting to be rescued. These stories include suspense, and a good description of the setting, so that they catch one’s attention. Also in both stories, the characters are prey for an animal at some moment.
COMMENTS:
Andres Porras: I think Andres’s comparison between “Romeo and Juliet” and “The Interlopers” was very well done. It is true that in both stories the characters hate each other at first, because of a family fued, but then they become friends, and eventually die. I disagree with the fact that he said the story does not contain any information of interest to high school students, because I believe it does. High school students can identify with the story in certain ways.
Daniella Kopper: I agree with Daniella’s statements about why would the story appeal to high school students. It is true that it is a time where teenagers have problems with their friends, and the story shows that it is important to learn to solve conflicts. Overcoming differences is always a possible way to reconcile, but it doesn’t mean that everything is going to be all right after that. This is shown in the story, the enemies become friends, but they end up being killed.
Isabela Rivera: I think Isabela is right about the fact that any teenager could relate to the story. Teenagers in high school, have many disagreements with many people. Some are not important, but they are still relevant for the person. I must admit that I also connected the story with my own life.
Sofia Neurohr
ResponderEliminarNov. 8, 2009
Block: F
I think that this story will not appeal to high school students because it is the kind of old tale that has been told several times. It is the kind of story that has 2 families that have been fighting for generations and at a certain point, a member of one of the families realizes that the other family is not so bad after all, and then they become friends. It is the kind of story where everyone becomes friends at the end. It is a monotonous story with no action ( exept in the ending), which is the main characteristic a story should have so it may be appealing for high school students.
This story can be compared to the greatest story of all times "Romeo and Juliet" and the actual world known story of "Twilight", becuase they all have a fighting between families or groups of "people". The only difference between these 2 stories and "The Interlopers" is that in the stories of Romeo and Juliet and Twilight, there is romance and action. In Twilight there are more cliffhangers throughout the story, something that is not present in the story of the Interlopers and may be the mayor problem of why the story may not be appealing to high school students. This story written by Saki, I found it to be very simple and boring, and I think that it should not be included in a Literary textbook.
Comments:
1.Ignacio: I think that you made a great point by mentioning that a textbook for high school students should not include alcahol or hatred
2. Natalia Ulloa: I think that you made a great point by mentioning that this story may be appealing to teenagers because teenagers also have enemies, and by reading this story, they might be able to overcome their enemies and become friends
3. Lucia Soley: I think that you made a great point by mentioning that the story was boring throughout the begining and the middle part. I agree with you that the story also had a bit of a turning point at the end.
Mariana Herrera
ResponderEliminarBlock: C
November 1st, 2009
I personally think that this is a very appropriate story for high school students. The Interlopers, is a short story that talks about the differences enemies have and the hate they feel for each other. This happens with high school students in school also. They have enemies that they do not want at all but they need to see them every day, and sometimes live with each other seven hours a day. The Interlopers shows how at the end, it does not matter how much you hate each other, most of the time enemies will leave their differences aside and become friends. I think that this is what we all should do, leave our differences aside and learn how to tolerate the people that are different to us. By being tolerant, we could live in a better world. I definitely recommend this book for high school students because many of us feel what Ulrich and Georg felt.
Many high school students have enemies because of several different reasons. But it doesn’t matter why we have enemies, we all do. The Interlopers is a story that shows us how to deal with our enemies. That is why I think that The Interlopers is a good story for high school students. Another reason is that in the story we can see how tolerant they become with each other after Ulrich talks to Georg. By dialoguing we can make our enemies our friends. This is a very special lesson we should all learn and practice it in our daily lives.
The Interlopers is similar to another story that I have read called “The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants”. In this story Lena Kaligaris goes to Greece, where her family is. In Greece she meets a guy named Kostos Dunas. Without knowing the feud between the Kaligaris and the Dunas family she falls in love with Kostos. After several months of disagreement between the families and suffering from Kostos and Lena, the families arrange with each other. Finally Lena and Kostos can continue being in love. Another story similar to this one is one is called “Romeo and Juliet”. In Romeo and Juliet their families have a feud. They are in love with each other but their families would not let them get married. Instead they arranged Juliet’s marriage with other man. At the end of the story Romeo commits suicide because he cannot be with Juliet.
As I read the story " The Interlopers" i started to conclude that this story does appeal to high school students. During the teenage years students tend to get in feud with their family or friends due to the hormonal changes. In " The Interlopers" at the end they talk about how the beginning of their friendship is going to bring changes. This makes us realize how insignificant fighting is. The characters in this story realized when they started talking that there fighting of all this years just because of their families was unnecessary. This also makes students realize that enemies can turn out to be friends if they are somehow given a chance to show who they really are with the people they care.
ResponderEliminarThis story can be compared to “ The Dangerous Game”. In both stories killing is in presence. In The dangerous game they is the need for hunting and killing others. In the interlopers there is the killing for revenge of their family feud. But at the end the enemies become friends by giving each other a chance. However in the most dangerous game it is not solved out. This story can also be compared to Romeo and Juliet because of the family feuds that take place and creates death. Although, at the end, the characters and families turn out being friends.
Comments
David Tsui: I agree with you, because high school students who read this story may realize that their enemies have common interests between them and would be able to overcome their differences.
Felipe Calderon: I do think that the lesson they give us in the story is going to be useful in life. It will make us realize that enemies can turn out to be friends
Andres P: I did not agree with you but I found you’re way of seeing the book very interesting. I never though or analyzed the story they way you did but I can see that you do have some points.
Camila Oller 9-5
comments:
ResponderEliminarMariana Herrera to Sofia Neuhror:
I do not agree with your opinion but I think you made a great point. The story is actually kind of boring becuase it is the same story of we have all heard about. The only difference about "The Interlopers" is that at the end they both die.
Mariana Herrera to Oriana Capra:
I agree with your opinion beacuse most of the times when we read a story that identifies with a situation we have had, we like the story. I also liked how you compared "The Interlopers" with two other stories we have read this year, "Being Prey" and "The Most Dangerous Game".
Mariana Herrera to Maripili Ramos:
I think your opinion is excellent. I do agree with you beacuse I think we all have been in similar situations, and that is why we liked the story. I also liked how you compared the story with "the Twilight Saga" and with "Romeao and Juliet"
Maria Fernanda Gamboa Arias
ResponderEliminarNov 8th, 2009
Block F
In my opinion Saki’s story, “The Interlopers”, does appeal to high school students, and it is perfect for including it in a high school text book. The situation lived in this story is something that happens daily, especially in high school. Very often we listen to teenagers talking about their “enemies”, and about that people they hate and will never talk to. This story can teach them that it isn’t worth it to hate or being enemies with someone because you never know when you are going to need something from them, or will have to help each other. That’s how life is, when you less expect it, you will need something from the person you never thought you would need something from. That’s why we must learn that it isn’t necessary to get to this point to solve our differences.
I think this story has also another important moral, and it is that in situations like the one in the story, there must be always someone that leave their proud aside and ask for an apology, or ask to be friends as Ulrich did. And specifically this is what sometimes is extremely hard for some people. But I ask myself why? Why is it so difficult to put our differences and our proud aside and try to live in peace and harmony? This factor is one of the reasons why the world is how it is now days. That’s why it is so important that young people read stories like this, so that they learn that that is the example they should follow. At the end those differences and those conflicts won’t take us anywhere, while being in peace will give our soul peace and clean it from all the hate and bad feelings.
Two stories to which this one can be compared are Romeo and Juliet and Troy. Both of them are similar to the Interlopers because in all of them there are two families that have been fighting for generations. In Romeo and Juliet this conflict led to the death of both of them. In Troy, the conflict between the families led to the death of the son of one family and to the destruction of a whole city. This shows us that conflicts always lead to tragedies. That’s why it is so important to stop with all those conflicts we have in our live.
Friendship is something important and necessary in most of the people’s lives. Obviously no one likes being in a conflict with another person. That’s why we must learn that any difference between two people is enough to end with a friendship. It is never too late to ask for an apology, and be friends with that person that can end up being someone extremely important in your life.
Antonio Gonzalez
ResponderEliminarBlock B
Comments
David Tsui: I agree with your idea David. This is that in times of trouble enemies can unite for them to resolve the problem. This is completely true. The enemies will put their differences apart and get out of it together.
Maria Fernanda Gamboa: It is true on how in real life teenagers talk about there enemies. Those people that can't talk to each other and want to do something for revenge. I like how you relate this real life situation with the story "The Interlopers".
Maria Luisa Santos: I agree with your ideas. During the teenager period, the adolescents tend to have lots of problems with family members and friends. Another idea I liked was that nature has control of anything. No one can control mother nature.
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ResponderEliminarRyan Jacobus
9-1
Block C
1) I don’t high school students would like “The Interlopers” because the ending is very open. I wanted to see how their lives continued, but instead we have to draw a conclusion from what happens with the wolves.
2) Being a high school student, I think I can speak for everyone when I say I don’t like ambiguous endings. In the story “The Monkey’s Paw”, nobody liked the ambiguous ending so I’m guessing it will be the same here.
3) I really enjoyed the story. It had a similar type of ending to “The Monkey’s Paw” in the sense that I just kind of ended suddenly and left you trying to figure out what happens. That’s the part that I don’t like.
Comments:
Manrique Leiva: I also agree with you and believe that having enemies isn’t a good use of time, it’s much better to have friends.
Arturo Sotela: I agree with you in that it’s better to to come together and fight problems together. That would be the smart thing to do.
Alberto Matamoros: I agree with you because I think lots of high school students enjoy suspense. It’s a really cool feeling and it makes you want to know what happens next.
Natalia Ruiz
ResponderEliminarBlock A
Saki’s story, “The Interlopers”, is a great story that should be included on a textbook for high school students. This story has high English vocabulary that high school students should know by now. It is important that the students have a high English vocabulary level and that they understand elevated vocabulary. They can use the knowledge of these new words to write essays, stories, articles, and reports in the future. In the future, the students will be expected to use high-level vocabulary.
Not only does this story has high level vocabulary, but is shows moral values that the students should learn to solve their daily problems. Adolescents confront problems with friends and enemies every day. This story shows that it is important to forgive our enemies because it is important to have more friends than enemies. High school students have some enemies for reasons that even they don’t understand. They should learn to put apart their differences and become friends.
“The Interlopers” is a story like others I have read before. “Eclipse”, from the Twilight Saga is a somehow alike. In the book “Eclipse”, there is a family of vampires who dislikes a family of werewolves. They are prohibited to cross each other’s lands and they lose their temper when they see each other. But when both families are concerned about the same trouble, they unite and work together as friends to solve the problem. This story is like “The Interlopers” because in both stories, enemies become friends when they both encounter the same trouble.
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ResponderEliminarNatalia Ruiz
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Comments:
Nicole Skaf: I agree that students have a lot of hate towards other students and that they have a lot of enemies. But don't you think that they should think about why they are enemies? Because a lot of times they don't even know why they hate their enemy.
Pedro De Matheu: You are right, this story is short so it does not bore the high school students. But I think that the story has advanced vocabulary rather than simple. Even the title has is a word that probably a lot of students hadn't heard before - Interloper.
Felipe Calderon: You are right, the story "The Most Dangerous Game" is somehow similar to "The Interlopers" because they both involve hunting. Another similarity is the setting of both stories, both stories are in the setting of wilderness. I think that the stories have more differences between them rather than similarities because in "The Most Dangerous Game", Rainsford does not forgive Zaroff and kills him in the end. But in "The Interlopers", Ulrich and Georg forgive each other.
The Interlopers Blog
ResponderEliminarDiego Rodriguez Arce
9-5
Block D
Two feudal members are enemies since birth, the two families fight for the bundles of their forests. After a disaster happened, they thought that they can be friends, first one didn't like the idea then he accepted. After they reconciled, they started to call their helpers, screaming in one voice. Then they saw something coming from the trees, wolves.
This story should appeal in a high school student book, because it gives us experiences that could be helpful in our lives, also the suspense it contains is very liked by teenager. It should be very liked by the teenagers, experiences like that happened in real life with a suspense tone. We have to be the most friendly as we can. There is nothing worst that having an enemy. In this story the author show us how long the selfish and the pride of a family can go. Georg doesn't want to change, but Ulrich made him to change for a better life, maybe they would die in the last moment of the story, or maybe they could be saved of the wolves, but in both cases being friends.
The first reason they should like it is because nowadays many teenagers are the "Georg" and the "Ulrich”, they are in a continuous fight, and they can meditate what they are doing and what they could do for improving their lives and their relationships.
Another reason they should like it is all the suspense and the way Saki writes. It involves you into the story, and you want to read the story because it gets more and more interesting, and also it changes your prediction of what happen at the end.
We can compare this story with Romeo and Juliet, two families reconcile because one member of each family is in an unexpected event. In Romeo and Juliet the two die because of love, but in this story it appear that also the two were killed by wolves.
Another story that is similar to it is "The Most Dangerous Game", the two main characters are enemies until the end, and it was supposed that they will not continue being enemies. But at the end one dies.
COMMENTS
Alberto Matamoros: I agree that high school students like a lot the suspense in the stories, but I disagree that in the end it was a funny end, I think that the story has a shocking end.
Manrique Leiva: That’s right, having enemies will lead us into feelings of hatred and the humans are capable of doing anything they want to.
Elisa Finol: I agree that enemies even thirsty of the other enemy’s blood can forgive and become friends, and also that in the story they didn’t became friends, they only don’t hate them.
Manrique Leiva
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COMMENTS:
Tussi: I think that Tussi's point of view that enemies should set their differences aside, and instead, cooperate with each other is very true. Also, his book comparisons are very thorough and detailed.
Felipe Calderon: He is totally correct by stating that peace should always prevail.
Mariana Herrera: I agree with her that tolerance is important because it is definetly something that we have to paractice in our lives. The more tolerant we can become, the better off we will be.
Desiree Barahona
ResponderEliminarBlock: D
I believe the story will appeal to high school students. The stories that are usually presented to us are often boring and pointless.. However, this has a plot maybe we can relate to. It shows irony and hate, things people have experienced. the story makes us feel familiar things such as friendship and fear. It is ironic how when these two men finally become friends, they die. It is similar to Romeo and Juliet by William Shakespeare in the way that when they finally get to be together, they kill themselves. Romeo and Juliet is the most famous love story ever and The Interlopers contains similar feelings. It is a valuable story and teaches us a lesson. The story is no boring however perhaps a little bloody. So it is appropiate for High School students but not middle school students and younger. I also thought it was positive how the two enemies were able to overcome their differences and were even willing to help each other. However, they die, it proves we can not cheat fate and that destiny is written.
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Alejandro Godinez: I agree with you. You feel the same way about the story as I do. The story does unite enemies and could even be an example for current enemies.
Esteban Oreamuno: youn explained your point of view in a clear way. You are a perfect example of how one can relate to the story. The story really does have valuable content and not unnecessary sentences.
Roberto Vitola: Yo too are an example of how people can relate to the story. You got the same message from the story as I did. YOu mention how enemies can be in schools well i completey agree. Enemies within school are on a smaller scale than long life enemies like the ones in the story but we are high school students and that is the only way we can relate.
Jose Pablo Boade
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block D
I think this book has good and bad things. The reason I think this story can be included in a textbook is because teenagers like these type of themes. On the other hand, I do not think this story should be included as part of a textbook because I do not like the ending since you don’t know what happened to the main characters.
I compare this story to Romeo and Juliet because both families first had a fight but by the end they have become friends. I also would like to contrast this tale with the movie Austin Powers; in this film there are two brothers who fight but in time they
stop fighting and become good brothers.
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Felipe Calderon: He is totally correct by stating that peace should always prevail.
Manrique Leiva: I agree with you that having enemies is a waist of time.
Ignacio Cordoba: I agree with you that stories that have alcohol should not be included in students textbooks.
Mariana Delgado
ResponderEliminarBlock: D
Saki’s story the “Interlopers” is a great story. It should be included in a textbook that appeals to high school students because it is easy to read and to understand. It is a great story for high school students because in this face of life is when we start to decide who are friends and who are enemies. This story can help high school students with their social life. It can help by knowing how to solve problems with their enemies and to have less social problems. In this story we can see that enemies can also be friends.
Although “ The Interloper” is an excellent story for high school students, its level of English is not quite the best. It has very easy vocabulary and very simple sentence structure. This sentence structures are simple, but they created a suspenseful story.
“The Interlopers” can relate to some stories I have read. For example Romeo and Juliet. The Montague and the Capulet families did not get along very well. When Romeo and Juliet fall in love for each other, their families forgive each other for all the past problems. Something similar happens in “The interlopers”. They were enemies because of their families. Georg and Ulrich become friends when they were lost together in the forest. They helped each other and put aside all their problems and became friends.
comments:
Natalia Ruiz: I agree with you that this story included vocabulary that high school students should know by now.
Diego Rodriguez: i totally agree with you on this statement that you wrote: "could be helpful in our lives. "
Sofia Neurohr: I agree with you that this story is very common, that it has a happy ending by becoming friends like most typical stories.
Diego Crawford
ResponderEliminarNovember 7 2009
Block A
The Interlopers
The story “The Interlopers” by Saki is a story about two enemies that get caught under a tree and after a certain amount of time; they both realize that they were fighting for something foolish. They start talking about how happy they would be if they were friends and that is what they become.
This story should be included in a textbook. The main reason for why this should be done is to teach high school students how to forgive. This story will appeal to high school students because during adolescence we tend to have enemies for stupid things. Sometimes, two or more adolescents are enemies because they like the same girl or boy, because of a lost basketball game and it was your friend’s fault, or even for jealousy. As you can see, adolescents tend to be very competitive which brings hate or a feud. This story would appeal to high school students because it would bring them ideas, it would bring them the desire to forgive and become friends with the ones that they hate before it is too late, and it would specially let them know that with some simple words you can make a big difference.
“The Interlopers” is very similar to a story called: “African Queen”. “African Queen is a story about a man and a woman that escape from the Germans. The man was trying to escape because the Germans wanted to take his boat away and the woman was trying to escape because at that time, Germany and Great Britain were enemies, and the woman was British. They both got in the boat and escaped into a river. At first, the woman hated the man because he was an alcoholic but at the end of the story, the woman winds up loving the man because they had an adventure together and the man changed for her. Another story that is very similar to “The Interlopers” is “How to Train your Dragon”. This story is about children that train dragons but two of them hate each other and train their dragons to kill each other. They were enemies but became friends during war because they were the only ones left and had to help each other if they wanted to survive. They fought together and won the battle.
NATHALIE SKAF: I agree with Nathalie that sometimes we become friends of our enemies because we have a lot in common. I also agree that sometimes what we don't like of others is a reflection of our selves. So, our enemies are actually friends of ours.
NICOLE SKAF: Nicole is absolutely right in her comment about high school students. High school students have many feuds and if they read " The interlopers" it will make them refelct in their mistakes and would maybe become mature enough to accept them.
IGNACIO CORDOBA: I think Ignacio made us look at the story in a different perspective. He is totally right that "The interlopers" show hatred and could be a bad example for high school students but the story is also telling us that hatred doesn't bring good things. If the two men would have not hated each other they would have not been killed by the wolves. So, it also teaches high school students that hating is not a prize winning thing to do.
Jimena Delgado
ResponderEliminarBlock B
The story The Interlopers, written by Saki, appeals to high school students, because it shows that, “the best way to destroy an enemy is to make him a friend.” The two men didn’t know each other, but as their families were enemies, they were too. It also shows that we can’t judge people if we don’t even know them. Maybe at last that person can become your best friend.
The story “The Interlopers” ends with a cliffhanger as well as many stories I’ve read, like “The Giver”. There are many people who don’t like stories that end like that and there are others that loved it. It has an ambiguous ending. You’re not sure that happens next as in the ending of “The Giver”.
The story “The Interlopers” is very similar to the play of Shakespeare, “Romeo and Juliet”. Both families have hated each other for a very long time. And Romeo and Juliet like each other knowing that their families dislike. In the Interlopers, both enemies overcome their differences and become friends.
ESTEBAN OREAMUNO: I agree with Estaban, because many of the stories that are in the text book are boring and sometimes difficult to understand. Instead Saki’s story is entertaining and easy to understand.
ResponderEliminarDiego Crawford: I agree with Diego because usually high school students tend to have enemies for stupid things, and this story might show them that your enemy may become be your friend.
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ResponderEliminarFelipe Calderón:
I agree with Felipe in the way that he says that people should not fight for material reasons or goods because it is true, those are the "fights" that are not worth a lot of time. I also agree with him because people should always look for the peaceful solutions to conflicts immediately. I agree with Felipe 100%.
Silvana Volio:
I agree with Silvana´s thinking. I also believe that at difficult and critical moments, we realize if our rivals are really people who we think they are.
Valeria Villero:
I also think that family feuds are common in literature and that they are usually resolved by a catastrophe. I completely agree with Valeria.
David Tsui
Block F
I believe that Saki’s book, The Interlopers should be included in student textbooks. It should be included in textbooks because it teaches you about having enemies, and live life in resentment. I think that this story may and may not appeal to high school students because it is pretty corny but it has a lot of descriptive scenes like the one were both are covered in blood. This story can be compared to Being Prey, and to The Monkeys Paw. To the story Being Prey because it shows the dangerousness of wild animals, and to The Monkeys Paw, because it shows that you need to be careful for what you wish for.
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Arturo:I agree with your point of view because people should just unite, instead of fighting each other.
Manrique: I agree with you because fighting is just a waste of energy and time.
Felipe C: I think that you are right by saying that peace should prevail.
Derrick
block: F
Do you know a person that you just don’t seem to get alone? Well…. In the story The Interlopers by Saki it might help you create a certain bond that makes you friends. This story helps and educates the mind of the readers. It tells them they can get along with others. The interlopers creates a bond with people to make new friends and to make your enemy a friend. If two families that have been fighting over generations and finally they get a chance to talk. They become friends, so can you. Give them a chance and you will find a connection that makes you friends. Ask yourself why? Why don’t you get along with that person? And have you talked about it… It might make it better if you do. The interlopers also compares to some stories. One called Romeo and Juliet. Both families dont get along but after at the end they do. Another one is called Animal Farm. When the animals take over some humans became friends to them. This book should apear on the textbook, it helps people learn to get along with one another.
ResponderEliminarWhen I finished reading this story, I kept on thinking about friendship. I thought a lot about the difference between a friend and an enemy. I thought of what is that, that makes a friend and that the makes an enemy. I came to my senses that a friend says good things that make you feel better. Thinks that you do not need to hear, but when these thoughts come form this special person, they really make you feel better. In the other hand, enemies without any purpose say things that hurt you. Friends are sometimes easy but sometimes hard to make, wile enemies are easy to make. I have learned that the only way to get rid of an enemy is to make him your friend. This story talks a lot about friendship and that is why it appeals to high school students.
ResponderEliminarBeing the high school years, the most difficult years regarding enemies and friends, this story should teach them a lot about them. In this story, the idea of getting rid of your enemies by making them friends it’s clearly showed when both characters become friends before dying. This can show high school people that you should not have enemies, but friends because maybe you do not know them and when you do, it is to late.
We should not judge people by their appearance. This commonly occurs on high school. People are constantly judge by their appearance, and not known from the inside. To make a friend, or to make an enemy your friend, you need to know him from the inside not outside. Everyone deserves the opportunity before is too late. High school students can learn about this in this story when both characters know the true person behind the mask and know that is not a bad person, but a good one.
This story compares with two other stories that I have read like “The Monkeys Paw” and “The Most Dangerous Game” because all of them teach you what is a good thing to do and what is a bad one. In this story we learn a lot about friendship. We learn how to get rid of enemies, and how to make friends.
Comments:
Isabela Rivera: I agree with Isabela with the fact that this story does make us, teenagers, connects our lives with the story, in oder to go through our teenage problems.
Camila Oller: I agree with Camila that the story clearly states that fighting is insignificant. We should not be fighting and this story sure help us with this insignificant fighting that we have as a teenager.
Alberto Matamoros: I agree with Alberto that this story will appeal to high school students, beacause we like susspense, and this story have this special element
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ResponderEliminarAndres Montejo
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Daniela Montalban Chaves
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I think that the story called The Interlopes by Saki will be a great story for high school students to read and analyze, and it will be perfect to included in a high school text book. From this story you can learn great things, one of them will be the values of friendship but also how sometimes enemies can become friends in hard situations like the one presented in the story. I think that it´s very important to high school students to learn about good values like friendship and why we all shouldn't have enemies.
High School times is one of the most complicated years for a teen ager for multiple reasons. But a big reason for it will be all the hormonal changes we experiment which is a very big reason for why we tent to have a lot of feuds will our family, friends of just random people at school. Most of the high school students always have and enemy or more than one for reasons that are not worth it and some of them don’ t even know why they dislike the other person just because they have never given them a change to really get to know them. This can also show us how is so much easier to like a person rather than hate it, and it relates to many real life problems
The story can compare to the Twilight Saga and Romeo and Juliet. During all the Twilight Saga there have been this two families or species called the Warewolves´and the Cullen´s Family which had always been enemies since forever and dislike each other. But when they realize that they have a common enemy, they fight for it, and let go their differences and see all the things they have in common. So it relates to The Interlopes because of the idea of how enemies can become friends when they see what they have in common. And in can also be related to Romeo and Juliet because of the arguments presented in the von Gradwitz’s and the Znaeym’s; the Montague’s and the Capulet’s. Which represents the common family issues that exist everyday.
3 Comments:
Ariana Echeverri: I agree with what Ariana said about how we can believe differences are not a reason to fight, and that they can be resolved and instead find similarities and excuses to be friends. But this are not necessarily excuses but big reasons for why we can become friends with the people we think are our enemies.
Maripili Ramos: I agree with your opinion. I think that what you said is very accurate to what really happens and and we should really take as important which is to make new friendships.
Maria Luisa Santos: i really like the way you wrote and expresses your ideas. I think that what you wrote about us having all of this hormonal and crazy changes in our life's is very truth and everything that comes with it.
Jose Pablo Murillo
ResponderEliminarNovember 8
Block A
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Agustin: I agree with you fighting is nor the solution for disputes.
Jimena: I agree with you to know if a person is your friend or enemy first you have to know him.
Tussi: I agree with you, people are stronger when they help each other. Two heads think better than one.
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ResponderEliminarJose Pablo M.:I agree with him because people do still fight and that this story relates to them. That this story would help them.
Agustin: i agree that this story might help end family feuds and might help high school students.
Johan: I agree that this story has a lot of lessons that people can learn. Also that every action that a person makes affects their future.
Juan Lasala
ResponderEliminarNovember 8, 2009
Block C
I think that “the interlopers” would appeal to a high school textbook. I think this way because the author, Saki, tries to tell the readers how people forget their differences when placed in a dangerous situation, which is a very important thing to be aware of. Another reason why I think this story will appeal to high school students is because of the way it is written. Saki uses some very simple words throughout the story, which helps with the understanding of it and also keeps the readers interested.
A story that compares to “the interlopers” is Shakespeare’s “Romeo and Juliet”. Both stories compare because there is a family feud in both of them, which ultimately ends up with the death of the main characters, Georg and Ulrich in one, Romeo and Juliet in the other. A second story that compares to Saki’s is “the most dangerous game” because the main characters in both stories like to hunt, but then are hunted down themselves.
Comments:
Felipe S: I agree with your way of thinking, specially the idea of suspense in the story
Ryan J: Even though the ending is open, I think it is clear enough that both men are attacked by the pack of wolves, so I disagree with your comment.
Jimena D: I agree with your way of thinking, and it is true that people tend to dislike each other without actually knowing if they could become friends.
aki’s story “the interlopers” will appeal to students of high school because demonstrates how sometimes enemies can work their differences out despite family feuds that go generations back. High school is a difficult stage in a teenager’s life in which we tend to be more hormonal and find things more insulting then other people would. High school students go through rough patches and have some disputes involving topics like the opposite sex, friendship, lies, and insults. “The interlopers” shows metaphorically how in life we are faced with different feuds and sometimes we must see beyond the feud and sort out each other’s differences.
ResponderEliminarOne book that reminds me of this story is a novel called “Sarah’s Key”. It is about how 2 families are separated due to a racial dispute and when the war comes and one family is in trouble they must work together in order to save themselves. Another novel is Romero and Juliet, two people that fall in love despite the huge family feud tearing them apart, they find out that you cannot assume that someone is the same as the source of the feud, people are different and if you actually try you learn how to put these things aside. This makes Romeo and Juliet one of the most remarkable novels ever made.
comments:
1)Valeria: I agree with Valeria´s thinking on how she believes that family feuds are very common in literature. Most feuds are resolved in cases of catastrophes or simply a very difficult situation.
2) david T : It is true that enemies often put aside their differences in order to find a way out of their difficult situation. I also believe that as teenagers we commonly have an enemy or a person we dislike so we can relate to this story and maybe even learn from it.
3)Esteban: I think that this story is very entertaining as well.It gets to the point quickly and keeps us wanting to know more. Although i do think that some stories should have details. If stories do not have details for example "Being Prey" then it loses its meaning of how this lady escaped the awful situation. The details bring the story to life.
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Sebastian Guevara
ResponderEliminarBlock F
nov, 8 2009
I think this story will appeal to the high school students because it show how a conflict between families years ago, can cause hate towards the members of the rival family. And is ended because the two family leaders are trap together and they get to know each other and become friends. This book shows how dangerous situations can make people change their mind towards another person. Also this book shows how two individuals can hate each other because they were told to. This book is similar to Romeo and Juliet because in Romeo and Juliet there is a conflict between families and then Romeo and Juliet meet each and stop hating a the families. Another story similar to The Interlopers is The Most Dangerous Game because it has a similar setting and this two character trying to find each other and kill his enemy.
Manrique Leiva: I agree with you that having an enemy is a waste of time end energy.
Alberto Matamoros: I agree with you that the story is entertaining because of its suspense.
Felipe Calderón: I agree with you that people should not fight for material reasons or goods.
Monica Montero Sanchez
ResponderEliminarNovember 8th, 2009
Block B
I think the story ‘‘The Interlopers’’ will be appealing to high school students because some could relate to the story. Even today, there are families who fight because of family histories. They might not even know any of them but they were raised with hate towards the enemy of the family. Also, students can learn from this story, that even enemies can help each other and put their differences apart in difficult times.
Two stories that Saki’s story can be related with are ‘‘Romeo and Juliet’’ and ‘‘The Most Dangerous Game’’. In William Shakespeare’s story, ‘‘Romeo and Juliet’’, Romeo’s and Juliet’s families are enemies. Romeo and Juliet didn’t even know each other but they fell in love and then found out that they belonged to the family who were their families’ enemy. In the end, their feud ends up killing Romeo and Juliet and their families realize that they should end their feud. The story can also relate to the story ‘‘The Most Dangerous Game’’, because they both have a similar setting and both are related to hunting.
Comments:
1. I agree with David Tsui’s relations of stories with ‘‘The Interloper’s’’.
2. I agree with Felipe Calderon. The story does teach us a lesson that we should not fight for material reasons or heat people who we do not know.
3. I also agree with Alejandro Godinez. The story does have an unexpected ending.
Jimena Artiñano
ResponderEliminarBlock: B
I think the Interlopers will be an appealing story for high school students because during high school you see discussions between students about unimportant things. Reading this story, high school students may realize that you cannot judge people just because of what you hear about them or just because of their family history, you must know the person well before judging them.
Maybe if high school students read this story, they could realize that there are more important things in life than fighting for unimportant things that make no sense. People should know that everyone is different and that people cannot tell what a person is like, just by looking at his past. To be able to know people and decide whether they are your friends or your enemies, you have to treat the people and see their personality and what they are. If the students read this story, they could realize that if two forces are joined and work as a team, they can find an easier way to fight against problems that affect all of us.
An example of this lesson is shown in the story of Romeo and Juliet. In this story two families hate each other because of the family history. Romeo and Juliet fall in love but they couldn’t be together because they belong to two different families that hate each other. At the end, when they decided to be together, and they die, the families realized that there are more important things in life than fighting for things that happened many years ago. Another example is Twilight. In this story a vampire falls in love with a human. Bella, the human, was told that the vampire was a weird person but she decided not to hear what people said. She met him and became very good friends and he told her his secret that he was a vampire. They fall in love and now they are a beautiful couple even though they are different. This shows us that we shouldn’t judge people. We should meet them before judging them.
Comments:
Ariana Echeverri: I agree with you that differences are not a reason to fight. People should respect the way someone is. Everybody is different and disserves to have there own way of thinking.
Andrés Porras: I agree that it is a boring story but it teaches us many things. It teaches us to accept people’s differences and we shouldn’t judge them just because of their family. You must know a person to be able to decide if you like them or not.
David Tsui: I think you are right; many students in high school are going through this kind of problem. And I also think that if they read this story they could realize what is wrong and become friends.
Jimena Artiñano
Block: B
Comments:
ResponderEliminarMa. Fer to Sofia Neurohr
Sofi I think you have a good point, but unfortunately the behavior of today's society asks for stories like this. I agree with you that the story could have been more exciting or with more suspense, but in my opinion this is a good theme for stories in a text book. Young people need to learn that being enemies with someone is never the solution. You never know when you are going to need from that person.
Ma. Fernanda to Maripili Ramos
Maripili, I totally agree with you, especially when you say that friendship is not chosen by fortune, but when the person is your friend because of who you are in the inside. At the end it doesn't matter at all whether you were rich or poor, what matters is if they were true friends during happy and sad moments of life. I strongly support your believe that friends shouldn't be chosen depending on their families or their status, they should be chosen depending on how good their feelings and personality is.
Ma. Fernanda to Ignacio
Ignacio, I agree when you say that the situation where they drink before die isn't appropriate to be put in a high school text book. But the message it leaves is very important for high school students to know and learn. You say that the reason for which they are fighting is nonsense and I agree with you, but still these fights exist and we see it every day. The story is just an example of a conflict where we learn that family feuds are not reasons to be enemies with no one, and an example to let us know how nonsense is having enemies.
1.) This story is appropriate to high school students because many times high school students have a lot of friendship and bullying problems and when they solve their differences their friends before get mad at them and in the story The Interlopers, they are represented as the wolves.
ResponderEliminar2.) Teenagers have psychological changes and decide that some friends are better than others and sometimes decide that some aren’t even worth it so they are bullies. When the students solve their problems their friends will most likely get mad at them.
3.) I’ve read some other stories like this one but they have an ending, one of them I really don’t remember the name but there were two families who were all the time fighting, they lived high up in a hill and they kept shooting each other’s houses but at the end they solve their differences and become friends. This story also remembers me of the civil war that the north fought against the south and they never had anything to do with each other but at the end they end up being friends, they like it or not and also Romeo and Juliet which at the end the main characters die.
Comments:
Jimena: I agree a lot that if high schools students read this story maybe their way of thinking will change because some high school students fight for no reason sometimes.
Monica:
I agree that you say that the setting from the MDG is very similar to the Interlopers and I also didn't notice that another thing they have in common is hunting.
Cristina: I agree that people in hard times need to work together in order to save themselves.
Alberto González
8/11/09
Block F
Gabriel Garrido
ResponderEliminarThe Interlopers should be included in high school textbook because it’s an interesting story with a good theme and teaching. Because of this it will be appealing to the high school students. Why? It teaches us how ridiculous irrational feuds are.
Most of the times, when people are involved in family or group feuds, they just hate each other for no specific reason. They just do because they feel it’s their duty to hate each other just like their closer ones do. It teaches us how we have to sit down and think if we really hate what we consider the “enemy”. Today, or in our context (high school), teens hate each other because they are not part of each other’s groups. It’s impossible to find a school where there’s no hate between students. However, this hatred is usually irrational, needless and stupid.
We should overcome any differences there are between the enemy and one. Should we hate that one guy just because my family or friends hate his family/group? No, absolutely not. Before labeling someone as enemy we should try to be friends. We should try to be friendly, ignoring one’s friend’s opinions. If this succeeds then great, you’ve got a new friend. However, if you tried but there was no result, just ignore it and move on, since there are more people you can befriend to. We shouldn’t hate those just because they share no similarities with us. For example, Ulrich draws the conclusion that there’s no need to hate Georg, and they become friends. We must talk to the “enemy” and decide whether they can be our friends.
There are some stories with a plot similar to the one in the Interlopers. Romeo and Juliet has a very similar plot to the Interlopers. They live in a family feud and they are not allowed to see each other, however they fall in love. They overcome the family’s hatred and become lovers, putting aside the feud.
Another example is the play West Side Story. It is about a conflict in New York between gangs; the Puerto Rico’s immigrants (the Sharks) and Irish Americans (The Jets). Then Maria (shark) and Tony (jet) fall in love. They ignore their respective gang's differences and just live together. It’s like a modern version of Romeo and Juliet.
Comments:
Diego Crawford: I agree with you. Its true that high school students fight each other over meaningless and foolish issues. And these fights usually cause unnecessary discomfort in each others.
Felipe Calderon: Felipe I agree with you because I think that fighting over goods is unnecessary. Also that we should always try to be friendly to each other and acquire friends.
Natalia Ruiz: I agree with you in the fact that we should forgive (if any harm has been done) and befriend those "enemies".
think that the story The Interlopers should be in a literature book. In my opinion it should be because it represents reality. It shows family’s feuds and how these feuds are passed by generation to generation. This story gives you a lesson and shows you that sometimes the last person you expect to ask for help will help you die or live. Another reason I think this short story should be in a literature book is because it a great example and can help you think more about friendship. Also people at this age say they have many enemies without knowing them and this is related to this story.
ResponderEliminarThis story is related to Romeo and Juliet. In both stories the two protagonists are involved in family’s feuds. Also in both of them when they are together in both of the story’s the protagonist dies at the end. Being Prey because this story shows different ways to try to escape in moments were you can die. In the Interlopers the two protagonist try to escape in moments were they are in real danger. Both stories are related because they show moments of real danger and in order to be safe they have to escape these dangerous moments.
Jimena: I agree with you that we shouln't judge people without knowing them and that we should know them first and then judge them.
David: I agree that in hard times enemies can leave there diffrencea a part and help each other.
Gabriel: I agree when you said it is a good teaching
Sissel Voldum
ResponderEliminarNovember 8th 2009
Block: C
I believe that the story should appeal in high school textbooks for several reasons. During high school is when teenagers go through the period of time in which they doubt a lot about their friendships and this story is much related to that kind of things. In every teenager life there is a person that they don’t like and that they don’t want to fix the issues between them but I think that we should all keep are enemies close because you would never know in what type of situation you will end up with this person.
This story can be related with several short stories we read in class. One of the stories I relate this with is “The Most Dangerous Game”. The Interlopers can be compared to this one because both of these stories have hunting included and life or dead situations. There is also on difference in the stories and this one is that in the interlopers they try to overcome their issues but in the most Dangerous Game they don’t overcome their differences and they don’t try to become friends.
Another story this one can be compared to is to the play “Romeo and Juliet”. In this play by Shakespeare there is a feud between families, the Montague’s and the Capulet’s. In the interlopers we can see a family feud which is between the von Gradwitz’s and the Znaeym’s. In both stories the families try to work their issues out and stop fighting for the ancient family feuds that weren’t that important in the present.
Comments:
Ignacio Cordoba:
Your opinion about the story is way different than mine but you have a point. Students shouldn’t be drinking in their early ages.
Desiree Barahona
I agree with you opinion because you are right we in high school read pointless stories and we should start reading stories that go directly to the point.
Oriana capra:
I also agree with oriana’s comment because people will definitely enjoy reading stories they can relate with. The interlopers was a story that many of us in our age can relate with and that’s why we enjoyed so much this story.
Giuliana Renzi
ResponderEliminar8/11/09
Block c
I just finished reading the book " The
Interlopers'' and I found it to be a excellent book for student, specially high school students that are now going through the adolescence period. It gives us a message about how important it is to keep your enemies close due to the fact that you never know when they can be effective or helpful in your life. Also because you don't know when they might stab you in the back and make you suffer a lot.
High school students are entering in the stage of life where they are choosing their friends for the rest of their grown up life and are experiencing social problems or friendship problems. Girls start to fight for popularity and get worried about been rejected in their class or generation ,and boys are fighting for girls. This may all lead to feature problem with one another, which means creating enemies: people that are against you. But people are very hypocrite when it comes to this situations because the bad people always tries to be good to those who don't like them, so they get into their business and you start trusting them but then it might turn out that they were just playing this game to make you spit out information about other and make them get full credit of been good people and ''helping others''.
This story may be compered with ''The Most Dangerous Game''. It might be compared because ''The Most Dangerous Game'' is about people that are willing to kill each other in order to get something. In ''The Interlopers'' the men are willing to kill each other in order to get land and because of their bad family history, and in ''The Most Dangerous Game'' the bad man it trying to kill the good guy in order to win a game and fill pride. They both have to do with jealousy and pride.
The other story that might be compered with ''The Interlopers is ''Begin Prey'' because its about escaping problems and dying situations. In the two stories people risk their life's because of wanting something specific. They suffer almost dying experiences that later on make them realize that its better to be careful with whom you mess with.
Arturo sotela
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Agustin Cuadra: I think the same way you do since I belive this is an example to follow along. It teaches us how to end the fight and how the simplest danger can bring to enemies together.nice dude...
Felipe Calderon:I think you are right about getting to know people before hating them. Many of us just hate people because of the way they seem to be but you don't actually get to know them.. nice dude..
Ryan Jacobus(my favorite gringo): Even though the ending is really open, I think it is clear enough that both men are attacked by the pack of wolves and die by them, so I guess I disagree with your comment. sorry man you are still my favorit gringo.
Alejandro Godinez
ResponderEliminarNovember 5 2009
Block D
I think that the story written by Saki would appeal to high school students. It makes a different ending that what you are expected to happen. It also makes us unite when we have our differences and to build new friendships. The students that read this story can also reflect about the message and apply it to their life by making their enemies friends.
A story that can be compares to the Interlopers is Romeo and Juliet. In both stories there is a feud between families. In Romeo and Juliet the battle is between the Montague and the Capulet’s. In the Interlopers it’s the families of Ulrich and George. In both stories the characters unite after long periods of rivalry. The result is the unite of both families with better results under a common interest.
Another story is the Most Dangerous Game. The both stories share some similarities. They are both located in the jungle and they are both dealing with hunting. At the end of both stories end with a event that is violent although the ending of the Interlopes is ambiguous you don’t know if they leaved or not.
Felipe C: Its true that good are not a reason to fight for and people should taking care of other more important things.
Diego: I agree that this story makes us evaluate our relationships with our friends and not fight about meaningless things.
Natalia: I agree that the author use of simple language makes the story more enjoyable aswell as that we can reliate to it.
COMMENTS FROM GIULIANA RENZI:
ResponderEliminararturo: i agree to what he said because he says that if two enemies unit they might make a great team and become of of the most powerful ''armies'' in the world
maripili: i like how she related the stories. What she states is that at the end the enemies have one common interest and there the enemies can relate to each other.
Natalia Ulloa: its true about how teenagers are able to relate to the story and actully like the story, because we usually like suspense in stories and thing that will live us hanging on the idea.
James Gammans
ResponderEliminarBlock B
The Interlopers blog
I do think that The Interlopers will be liked by other high school students. One of the reasons why I think so is because I liked the way the story develops. Another reason is that the two enemies put their differences apart and make them selves friends. High school students also like the suspense that this story creates. This story mentions the big game, hunting, and in the story The Most Dangerous Game it is an important element. In the story Being Prey the main character is attacked by an animal, in this story the main characters are attacked by animals as well.
Comments:
Felipe Calderon: I agree, this story does teach the reader some life lessons.
Manrique Leiva: I agree that ¨The Interlopers¨ relate to MDG and Being Prey.
Felipe Sanabria: I agree that high school students would like this store because of the suspense it creates.
Juan Lasala: I agree with what you say about conflicts and differences. This should be one of the biggest emphasis in high school.
ResponderEliminarIgnacio Cordoba: I agree with some of the points you stated that should not be included in the story. I also liked the ending and you made a very good comparison to "Life of Pi".
Tussi: I believe your comparison to Romeo and Juliet was excellent since both of the texts show a great family dispute.
Esteban Oreamuno
Guillermo Vasquez
ResponderEliminar11.08.09
Block C
I think that Saki’s story will appeal to high school students because it happens commonly between high school students. High school years are the years when teenagers start to have conflicts, and start to disagree with each other. In the story “the interlopers” by Saki you can see a big conflict between two families and how they put an end to their feud.
You can compare this story with Romeo and Juliet. There were two families the Montagues and the Capulet. The way this two families end their feud is when both families loose the child. A tragic end just like Ulrich and Georg get eaten by wolves.
You can also relate to the story “The Most Dangerous Game” because both men have an addiction to kill, but in the end the story ends with a tragic end just as “Romeo and Juliet” and “The Interlopers”
Comments:
Felipe Calderon: I agree with you about giving people a chance to know them. “Never judge a book by its cover” don’t make judgments only on how people look.
Juan Lasala: I agree with you when you mentioned that when people are in dangerous situations they will forget their differences and work together to survive.
Arturo Sotela: I agree with you when you said that if two people unite they would do a much better job that each one by themselves.
Mariela Gonzalez
ResponderEliminarBlock C
1. I think this story would appeal to high school students because it helps us have a view of how the people were treated during World War 1. It also teaches us different values such as respect, and shows us how people always use violence to solve conflicts and achieve their goals. This produces hatred throughout many generations and afterwards desires for global peace.
2. This is my opinion because they tell us that Saki wrote this while he was serving as a soldier during World War 1. After having studied this war we know people weren’t treated with respect, but completely the other way around. I also know about hatred between nations because this is always produced after disagreements or desires for the same thing. But in the end, after war has created so much damage, they try to come to an agreement and settle thing out between them.
3. The story compares with one a read last year about how Japanese and Japanese Americans were treated during the war between USA and Japan. Inside the camps they were treated badly, not being able to get out of the huge walls that separated them from the rest of the word. It also compares with The Diary of Anne Frank because just like The Interlopers, a girl wrote it during the Holocaust. She ended up in an internment camp with her family, too and suffered the almost same. The only difference is that she ended up dying.
Rodolfo Leiva
ResponderEliminarNovember 8
Block A
The Interlopers Blog
I think The Interlopers will appeal to high school students. It is a really fun and interesting. It has an understandable and easy vocabulary. The story has a topic that interests people. It is of something that everyone can all relate to. It has many valuable themes too.
If they would have reconciliated before the incident, it wouldn’t have happened. They would not have been chasing each other and they would not have been caught under the tree. Many people could call it karma. Maybe they just deserved it. It was until they were in a life death situation that they got along.
They also wouldn’t have been living in constant hatred and obsession on their enemies. A life chasing down your enemy is not a life lived well. Instead of planning how to get their land, the families could have been talking and having a good time. They could have just split up the land.
It is also teaching us how it is a bad habit to keep a grudge for such a long time. The children of the original conflict makers didn’t have to follow the hatred that their relatives had.
I have read two other similar stories. Romeo and Juliet is also a story of a family feud that separates two lovers. It has the exact same themes. I like Romeo and Juliet better because it is more descriptive while The Interlopers only concentrates on the specific event in which they reconciliate.
Another similar story is The Fox and The Hound. The fox and the hound as children are friends, but as they become older, the hound is influenced by his owner that he is a hunting dog. Then he is no longer allowed to speak to the fox. Then after a life death situation, the hound saves the fox from his owner shooting it.
Comments:
Andrés Porras: I agree with you on the fact that the story is not very descriptive and doesn’t explain how the feud began which makes it a little boring. However, I think you are exaggerating a little on how unpleasant it was. You are only looking at your point of view when many other students thought it was entertaining. I believe you thought this only because you are too concentrated on thinking of it as homework. Obligatory reading is always less enjoyable than leisure reading.
María Fernanda Gamboa: I agree with your comment. I had never thought of the story in that way. It is important to not maintain a quarrel with someone or have an enemy because you might need something from them in the future or circumstances might change.
Ignacio Córdoba: I am in disagreement with your comment. Such insignificant and slight immoral content won’t make a difference in the way students think.
Camila Zamora
ResponderEliminarBlock C
This story “The Interlopers”, will appeal to high school students. Although it is simple and easy to understand, I believe the theme is important for life. Forgiveness and reconciliation need to be taught to students, in school before they reach the outside world. Through their lives, people encounter disputes and problems. It is necessary to forgive and reconciliate.
The second reason why I think the story appeals to high school students is learning how to deal with differences. The world has a great diversity. People from other cultures, who have different beliefs and physical traits. Students will not encounter a world with humans who always share their same values and perceptions. In school, students must be taught to accept differences and be able to live with them.
“The Interlopers” relates to Romeo and Juliet. When both families (who hate each other), face a tragedy they unite and end their feud. Through history I’ve seen people unite at hard times. Another story that relates with this topic is Harry Potter. Zedric and Harry hate each other and are enemies. They face a competition and must unite to win it. After being enemies they end up being partners.
Comments:
I agree with Jimena A when she made connections from the stroy to Romeo and Juliet. In my essay I did the same connection. When people are in a difficult situation they unite.
I agree with Andres M when he said that it people shouldn't judge based on the appearance. At the end what matters is what is inside. People should know each other first and not be judging by the way they look.
I agree with Antonio when he said that even the worst enemy could become a friend. Enemies can only be based on appearance and maybe they don't even know each other. When you know this enemy you can learn that it wasn't as bad as you thought.
Mariela Gonzalez
ResponderEliminarBlock C
Comments:
1. Mariana Herrera: I agree with her that it would help us solve problems with bullies, since it is seen a lot during high school years.
2. Alejandro Godinez: I agree that the story has an unexpected and ironic ending.
3. Camila Oller: I agree with her about fighting being insignificant. I also believe that if some people are given a chance, they can maybe turn out to be someone we didn't expect them to be.
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ResponderEliminarIn my opinion, high school students would be very interested while reading this story. Teenagers usually have a lot of conflicts with friends and end up having enemies. Most of the time, the problems they have are because of silly, little conflicts. After reading this story, maybe the students will realize that sometimes you will need help from them. At this point, people have to overcome their differences. In the story, the main characters overcome their differences and issues but get killed at the end. In real situations, people who don’t like each other have to tolerate each other’s differences in order to work together. It is not worth spending time hating someone, life is too short and you should try to live it as happy as possible.
ResponderEliminarI believe high school students would enjoy it because the story is similar, in a certain way, to their daily lives. The conflict between Ulrich and Georg may be alike to the jealousy between two people. In our days, it is very common that people hate others because they want something that the other has, or because one has more than the other. Another reason is that the students will enjoy it because even though the events in the plot are complicated and seem like difficult to solve, the characters manage to overcome them.
The Interlopers can be compared with the story Being Prey. In Being Prey, the main character is in a struggling situation where no one saves her. In The Interlopers both characters are in a troubling circumstance where no one saves them either. A difference is that in Being Prey, the character is saved at the end of the story. In The Interlopers, at the end, they believe that their men are going to save them, but instead, the figures are wolves.
Another story The Interlopers can be compared to is Broken Chain. In The Interlopers the characters have a bad relationship at the beginning, but at the end they become friends and are able to survive. In Broken Chain, the brothers don’t get along very good, but at the end Alfonso helps Ernie and solves his conflict. A difference is that in The Interlopers the characters are enemies because of territorial issues but in Broken Chain the brothers, just as any other, fight occasionally.
Comments:
* Sissel Voldum:
I agree when you say that during high school is when teenagers doubt a lot about their friendships. As high school students, I think that the majority of us have experienced that "one person we don't like". We have lo learn to tolerate and respect their differences because we will probably have to work and interact with them at some point.
* Luisana Herrera:
I agree when you say that this story gives shows you that sometimes the last person you expect to ask for help will determine if you live or die. Even though the characters in the story became friends and thought they were going to get rescued, the wolves came.
* Gabriel Garrido:
I agree with you when you say that most of the times, when people are involved in family or group feuds, they just hate each other for no specific reason. They just do because they feel it’s their duty to hate each other just like their closer ones do. I believe that this is a silly way to hate others because most of the times, they don't even know what the feud was about, they just hate them because of family history.
Mariela Cuevillas
Block A
Silvia Pinto
ResponderEliminarBlock C
Blog: The Interlopers
The interlopers is a story that would certainly appeal to high school students. The interlopers ia an intresting and unexpected story. This story has an exciting finish. Georg and Ulrich now friends expect a great life and happiness to come through their friendship. They don´t get time to experience this, only death comes. This causes a want to know what is to come in the students, making them enjoy the reading.
The interlopers can be compared with stories as the Monkey´s Paw and The Most Dangerous Situation. You can see that all the stories end with unexpected finishes. All involve suspense. The stories make you want to read more, know the end. They help students expoloring unique stories and unique situations. All situations that bring a meaning and help them explore good themes.
Comments:
Monica Montero: I agree with Monica the some students might relate to the story. This is because many people suffer and pass through family feuds, and have enemies.
Natalia Ruiz: I agree with Natalia that some students would learn alot of moral values. They would also learn vocabulary and aquire a better understanding of english.
Valeria Villero: I agree with Valeria that teenagers will like the ironic ending presented in this story. This would help them enjoy it a lot.
Comments:
ResponderEliminarIgnacio Cordoba
Block F
Silvana V. Even though I disagree with you in your main idea, I agree with you when you say that we have all been in a situation in which we hate for no reason.
Andres M. To get rid of an enemy you need to make him your friend. I really like that way of thinking.
Maria Luisa S. "Nature rules over everything." You are right, that is something very important for people all ages to know.
Miguel Valverde
ResponderEliminarBlock D
I believe that The interlopers by Saki should be included in the textbook. I believe this because I feel it will appeal to high school students. This story will appeal to high school students because in the story there are problems between families and the two main characters fight without knowing why. Students could relate to this because sometimes this happens in school, two people fight because their friends don’t like the other person. Also this story has an interesting plot and a lot of suspense.
One story The Interloper relates to is Romeo and Juliet in both stories there is a very big family feud. The feud in Romeo and Juliet is between the Capulets and the Montagues and in the interlopers it is between Ulrich’s and Georg’s families. Another similarity between these two stories is that the ending is not a happy ending but an ending of tragedy and death. Also this story relates to being prey because there is a conflict with animals attacking and causing problems. Also in both stories there is a problem with nature.
Comments:
James Gammans: I agree with you that high school students like suspense in stories.
Gabriel Garrido: I agree that this story leaves the teaching that feuds
are ridiculous and irrational
Desiree Barahona: I also believe that this story has a very interesting lot to which we can relate to.
Tomas Vargas
ResponderEliminarNovember 8th,2009
Block D
I believe that this story will be appealing to high school students because it is ironic and is full of suspense. It will appeal to high school students also because some of them can really relate to the story. We might not know but we might have a feud with a close friend. The way of fighting can be like who gets first to the cafeteria, who finishes the test first,etc. We might not know that's why the story relates to us all.
The book also has a astonishing ending. You think Ulrich and Georg and going to kiill each other but at that same moment fate comes in and unables them. Then they are trapped under a tree, with a common interest, and still with that deep suspense.
I think Saki's story can relate the most with Romeo and Juliet. In both books/play we can clearly see the feud that both families have.In both of them, they become friends at the end because they see that they really have no reason to fight.
Andres Gonzalez
ResponderEliminarBlock A
Blog Entry
The Interlopers was a very interesting story that should appeal to almost any type of audience. This story should appeal especially to high school students because it shows situations in which they might be someday. It shows two families that are in a fight, these may be related to two enemies in high school and it shows how the conflict between these two families in resolved. It should also appeal to high school students simply because it is a very entertaining story that has a recurrent theme and very good writing. The author makes the reader really identify with the characters and their situations, making this a very interesting story.
There are many reasons why I think that what is shown in this story can be used as advice for high school students. Students find themselves in this kind of situation every day. There are always people who don’t like each other, and this story deals with two enemies that when both are found in a difficult situation they both reflect about their past fight and decide that it was never as important as they thought it was. They decide to leave behind their differences and become friends, but the story also tells us that we must do that before it’s too late, that is represented when the wolves come at the end and the fate of the characters remains unknown. I also think that this story had good writing because I like the way the author narrates the story with his omniscient point of view, I like how he shows both of the character´s thoughts and how they change throughout the story and conflict.
This story can compare to many stories, movies and TV shows out there. I can easily compare it to two movies that I have seen which are: Spiderman 2 and Ice Age 3. In Spiderman 2 the evil Dr. Octopus creates a gigantic molecular reaction that will cause an explosion and destroy all of Manhattan. As Spiderman and Dr. Octopus are in the final showdown, it looks as if though Spiderman is completely defeated when he makes Dr. Octopus realize that what he is doing is wrong. When Dr. Octopus realizes this he sacrifices himself to save the city by taking his molecular reaction and jumping deep inside the water so that the explosion does not affect anyone or anything. In Ice Age 3, Buck, a prehistoric squirrel-like creature, hunts this gigantic T-Rex called Rudy. They have been hunting each other their whole lives and when Rudy “dies”, Buck feels like his life has no meaning anymore. A relationship was built between Buck and Rudy and at the end of the story, when Rudy appears to be alive, Buck goes back to where they were before happily.
Comments:
Tussi: Tussi is right, this book could help many high school students with their daily lives, and his first Romeo and Juliet analogy was very smart and concise. I did not feel that his second analogy was as good as his first one. I felt that his analogy to The Most Dangerous Game was a bit superficial; he concentrated on things like the setting instead of what is the actual theme of the story.
Ignacio: Ignacio makes smart points in why the story should not be included in a textbook; most of them are valid and observing but the one about the alcohol reference is a little irrelevant. It is true that students in High School are not allowed alcohol, but in this story the characters who drink are grown men who are able to make their own decisions, high school students are mature enough to handle this subject.
Valeria: I really like Valeria’s perspective of the story; she makes a very interesting point in mentioning that feuds are always most likely to end with a tragedy. Her comparison of this story to many stories of the Victorian era really showed her knowledge about the subject.
Miguel Valverde: I agree with you in that both Saki's Story and Romeo and Juliet end with tragedy and death.
ResponderEliminarGabriel Garrido: I agree with you in that family feuds are ridiculous and irrational. Also that they have no good reasons to fight, but they do it because the feud is passed from generation to generation.
Antonio Gonzalez: I agree with you in that the vocabulary that the story contains makes it perfect for high school students. Also the ambiguous ending leaves a sense of thrill in your mind.
Ana Laura Quirós
ResponderEliminarBlock C
The story will appeal to high school students. It will appeal because it teaches a lesson that we all need to learn. That lesson was that we shouldn’t hate someone just because someone says so; you can be friends with everybody. You shouldn’t be hating everybody just for one little thing, because in the future you will forget why you hate him and you spended all your life hating him or her. But you need to be careful about your
friends, now you won’t notice but some of them might end being your enemy.
I think this way about the book because you will never know how you will end up. I don’t want to have enemies because I don’t want someone hating me for the rest of my life. I want enjoy life to the fullest and I would like to make friends not enemies. If you hate someone for a long time, you will spend your life on a stupid thing and you will not notice what happens to your life.
I will compare the story The Interlopers with The Most Dangerous Game and The Monkeys Paw. In the Interlopers and the Most Dangerous Game, both have enemies. But in the Most Dangerous Game Zaroff and Rainsford starts like friends but then they become enemies because Rainsford kills Zaroff. And in the Interlopers Georg and Ulrich starts like enemies but then they become friends. The Interlopers and the Monkeys Paw are similar when they really wanted something, the monkeys paw when they wanted the 200 pounds and the interlopers when Georg and Ulrich wanted to kill each other. And a difference is that one, the family becomes crazy and in the other one they want to forget the past and be friends.
My Comments:
David Tsui: I agree with David because some students are living through this, they might have "eternal rivals" or enemies, and by reading this story, they could change their minds and become friends
Agustin Cuadra:I agree with Agustin because this is an excellent example to high school students of how disputes should be ended, and how survival is important.
Valeria Villero: I agree with Valeria because Families' feuds are common in literature and they usually are resolved by a tragedy or catastrophe. The story gives us a different perspective in fate.The reader may learn while reading how important it is to forgive and love.
Sofia Castro
ResponderEliminarBlock B
I think this short story should be included in a textbook because of the message it sends the reader. I think the story will appeal to high school students because it is about enemies who let go of their differences and become friends and I think high school is a period where that happens frequently. Also, because sometimes by letting go of their differences they will be benefited, like in the story that in the end to survive to the wolves they will need to work together. I think this story relates to lots of stories I have read. One of them is Bring It On in which two girls are captains of opposite teams and are battling to win first place at cheer camp, but because of an illegal cheer battle, half of both teams where injured and there weren’t enough people in neither teams to participate. In the end they let go of their differences and join their teams to win first place. Another story I have read is called Frenemies. It’s about two girls that have been friends since childhood and become enemies because one of them likes the boy and the her best friend started dating him so they became enemies. At one point they decide they shouldn’t let a boy ruin their relationship and start being friends again.
1)Miguel V: You are right these story is very similiar with Romeo and Juliet and Being prey.
ResponderEliminar2)Rodolfo: I agree that that they become friends because they were going to die.
3)Diego Rofriguez. I agree with you that Saki is trying to teach us that having enemies brings negative stuff.
Alejandro Soto
ResponderEliminarBlock:C
This story might appeal to high school students because it has an interesting theme and Saki has a very interesting and creative way of writing. It will appeal to high school students in the way that it is not boring to read, it should be included in a text book because not all stories are like this and are easy to read and understand and connection to real life can be easily made. As you read the story, the story has a way of catching your attention, so you keep on reading until the end. It has cliffhangers that leave you thinking about what will happen next and foreshadowing that tells as little as possible without taking the interest of the text. Also the story is about something that may have happened to students that an enemy becomes a friend. They may also have an enemy in common.
The story also might be appealing to high school students in the way that it relates to situations they may have experienced. Also this question might arise: Have I experienced this that an enemy becomes a friend and why did we start to be enemies in the first place? The reader might realize the problem that made them enemies was meaningless and not so big to make hate rise between them.
This story relates to a story of Romeo and Juliet they are supposed to hate each other and when they meet each other rather than hate each other they fall in love. Also it relates to another story I read it is from R.L. Stine from a series he made that is called fear street and its mainly about a high school group that as always is divided and some have a great hate towards each other because one bullies the other or because one is not popular and the other one is. They are in Halloween at a Halloween party were fear will arise and murder will happen and in this they start to bond because of the fear and need to make alliances because anyone could be the killer and if they stay together and are able to trust each other they might survive.
I think that the story “The Interlopers” will appeal to high school students and should be included in high school textbooks. It will appeal to high school students for several reasons. First of all, it is very important for students to know that communication is very important in life, and it can help end huge problems. Also, that when enemies are in a situation that can cause them death, they will put aside their differences to save their lives. Sometimes, because of family feuds people just hate each other for no reason, but maybe if they left their differences aside, they would learn that maybe they have a lot in common with the other person, and they could become great friends. I think that this story will also appeal to students because it is very short and easy to understand, and because of personal experience, I know that most high school students prefer to read short stories in textbooks.
ResponderEliminar“The Interlopers” could be compared to the story Romeo and Juliet, since they are both related to family feuds and in both stories this leads to a lot of trouble, hate, and even death. It can also be compared to the story “The Most Dangerous Game” since in both stories the men are enemies and they are both fighting for their lives. The difference is that in “The Interlopers” the men solve their problems and let their differences aside, but in “The Most Dangerous Game” they don’t and this leads to death. But actually, in the end of both stories there is death, so that is something they have in common.
Comments:
I agree with Camila Oller since she says that fighting is insignificant and that enemies can turn out to be friends if they are given a chance to show who they really are.
I agree with Silvana Volio since she says that we all have or will have enemies in our lives but in bad situations we don´t care who are rivals are and it is at worst times that we realize if that person is really our enemy.
I agree with Camila Zamora since she says that forgiveness and reconciliation need to be taught to students before they reach the outside world because people will encounter disputes and problems and it is necessary to forgive and reconciliate.
Marielle Sauter
block F
1)James Gammans: I agree that high school student enjoy suspense stories.
ResponderEliminar2)andres porras: i agree with you that the part that the author not telling how the feud began makes the reader get a little bored
3)Felipe Calderon: I agree with in what you said that fighting over goods and material things is unnecessary.
Sofia Castro
ResponderEliminarBlock B
COMMENTS:
Isabela: I agree with you, since I am a teenager myself and felt I could also connect with the story. Also you are right teenagers always are constantly disputing and they would be able to relate very well.
Daniella: I also agree with you that it is a time to solve conflicts and learn to reconcile and also I think that if people read the story that could help.
Oriana: I also think that people enjoy more a story or novel when they can relate to it because personally it happens a lot to me.
Elisa Finol
ResponderEliminarBlock D
COMMENTS:
1) Marielle Sauter: I agree with Marielle about how most high school students prefer to read short stories. I also agree that communication is a very important tool is solving a problem.
2) Andres Gonzalez: I agree with the part in which you said that most high school student will be able to relate to this story because the situation is one that most students will encounter someday.
3) Miguel Valverde: I agree that the story has an interesting plot and a lot of suspense. I also agree that, in school, many fights are derived from loyalty to a friend who hates someone, such that someone may hate someone else just because their friend hates them.
Agustin Cuadra
ResponderEliminarNovember 9
Block A
COMMENTS
1) Rodolfo Leiva: I agree with Rodolfo, the vocabulary in the story is appropriate for students of that age. It also shows a lot of themes the author placed throughout the story. Even though that if they hadn't being in a fight since before they wouldn't have died.
2) Daniela Montalban: I strongly agree with Daniela's blog. It has great arguments about how this story teaches a lot to teen agers and how there hormonal change can cause a lot of difficulties. Which this book not only shows about a fight, but as well about how friendship is really important.
3) Diego Crawford: Diego has a great point of view. Usually high school students tend to have enemies for stupid things, and this story might show them that your enemy may become be your friend. Not only that having friends is important, but also that having a feud its nonsense. You won't win anything in a fight no one of the persons involve will eventually win, instead as a friends, they win a lot of things, love, friendship, help... and much more
Sebastian Corrales
ResponderEliminarBlock D
I think this story might not help high school students to understand the consequences of solving their own problems. For example it gives us a bad message that if we solve our conflicts between another people we will die eventually and our problems will be solved. It also shows us about family feuds and how such a bad inheritance of hatred is passed down into every generation. The Interlopers can be compared with “The Most Dangerous Game” because in both of them the characters die and there is a feeling of death in the setting of both stories. It can also be compared with “Being Prey” because in both stories it shows that nature will always be more powerful than man and that we cannot control it.
Comments
Tomas Vargas: I agree with you that high school students like suspense stories.
Miguel Valverde: I agree with you that this story could help students to not get into trouble by the peer pressure of other people and to not make a fight for no reason
James Gammans: I do not agree with you in the part that they become friends. This situation only happens because they were going to die but if not they would continue hating each other.
I believe that high school students should read The interlopers. In their teenage life, high school students deal with gossip, disscusion, secrets and fights. In the interlopers Georg and Ulrich are fighting because their families hate each other. This story opens the teenage maturity level to a higer one giving them the oportunity to resolve problems.
ResponderEliminarThis story can be compared to Romeo and Juliet because the family feuds end at last for being under the same circumstances and to The Most Dangerous Game because of the setting being in a jungle and in a forest. Both out in nature.
COMMENTS
Ignacio: Although your point of view is differnet it is very interesting, and caught my attention.
Ana Laura: I agree with you. We have to chose our friends very carefully.
Marielle: I agree with you both stories have a lot in common like death.
Alexa Jimenez
9th November, 2009.
Block:F
Maria Laura Bolaños
ResponderEliminarNovember 9, 2009
Block D
The story “The Interlopers” may appeal to the high school students because of the main idea that the story gives. Two men, who have a dispute that has come through generations, are stuck under a tree and are struggling to get out of it but it is impossible for both. After arguing, one of them gives out the first step. He forgives and asks for forgiveness to the other. For me this was the main idea. Forgiveness, as a strong value can break any dilemma between two. It takes braveness and a strong thought, and in this case a struggling situation that could have been death.
In real life people have been struggling through generations with one another and maybe for so long that no one remembers the way it started. But after a harsh situation that both of them were involved, forgiveness is seen. Sometimes reading about it may help. High school students may learn that forgiveness in any case, creates strong relationships and even creates a better conscious person. Also, people can forgive without going into circumstances like the one shown in the story. Both of them could have died when the tree fell down and well of course forgiveness would not have a place in the story. But it does not have to be this way though. Forgiveness may come through a deep feeling creating a thought and giving strength to ask for it or give it.
This story reminds me of the book “The Vampire Diaries” by L. J. Smith. Two brothers that became vampires have been struggling for almost two centuries. Blaming each other that the girl they both fell in love killed herself. But then the younger brother finds a girl and falls in love with her. His older brother feels jealous that she also fell in love with him, but he still has a chance to make her fall in love with him. He never succeeded. After many events and struggles she asks as the last wish before she dies, for them to promise they will each take care of each other no matter what. They keep their word and their relationship gets better.
Another story that reminds me of “The Interlopers”, is “Romeo and Juliet” by William Shakespeare. For many generations, the Capulet family of Juliet, and Montague family of Romeo, has had dilemmas. It is not until the death of the young, in love couple, they forgive each other. Again the same situation as “The Interlopers” is shown. Fighting, arguing and even wishing death to each other. But when they see that the Capulet´s daughter and Romeo are dead they feel guilty and then, that deep feeling, creates forgiveness.
COMMENTS:
1) I agree with Andres Gonzalez because it is quite an interesting story and it has good writing.
2) I agree with Gabriel Garrido because feuds are ridiculous and irrational when there is no specific reason.
3) I agree with Mariana Delgado because it is when you decide who are your friends and who are the real enemies. Social life is a large percentage in this time of your life, and in this story it is shown how enemies may become friends in an unexpected way.
Rafa Mora
ResponderEliminarNov 9
Block C
The Interlopers should not be included in a high-school anthology because it is an awkward and aggressive story. It does have a nice message but I did not get it because there was not a real resolution to the story’s problem. Having a fun and enjoyable story in an anthology from which you can also learn makes it allot more fun to read and makes you want to read it more attentively. If you are interested in something you will pay more attention to it and having fun reading story makes it easier to read and understand it. I did not enjoy it and thought t was a boring and bland.
Rafa Mora
ResponderEliminarComments
-I did not agree with Ignacio Cordoba but it’s an interesting way to see it
-I consider David Tsui’s comparison of The Interloper’s and Romeo and Juliet
is Shallow and he did not see beyond ethier story’s
-I agree with the interpretation by Tomas Vargas because fate is Saki’s main point in this story.
Andres O
ResponderEliminarBlock B
In my opinion "The Interlopers" shoudl not be included in textbook because its way of transmitting its message is too simple and predictable. The theme itself is interesting but the way of putting it in the stroy is really predictable and boring in many points of view.
IN The Alchemist, the theme is transmitted in ways that made me want to keep reading and I had no idea of how the story would turn out. The presence of irony is not presented in The Interlopers and the story is to predictable, except for the Wolves, but that is only one detail, but anyway, the story is too much of a lower level work.
I believe this story appeals to high school students because it teaches lessons for life. This story teaches that people should not have conflicts and we should always look friendship instead of rivalry. Also having enemies is a waste of time because nobody wins. Another lesson is that it is possible to become friends with enemies and giving a chance to knowing people not to hate them without reason.
ResponderEliminarThe story is similar to "The Most Dangerous Game", because they are both related to hunt. The both characters in both stories are tough. Also characters they have the guts to kill itch other. Also both characters change their way of seeing things in one story the way of seeing itch other and in the other the way of seeing hunting. Another story is one called Percy and the Olympians I one of the books the main character and an enemy became friends because they found a common enemy.
Andres Carranza
10/11/09
Block F
Comments
Gabriel: I agree with Gabriel’s because feuds only cause more problems.
Ignacio: your point of view is very interesting and different.
Alejandro Godinez : I agree with you that the ending of the story is ironic and not expected.
Andres O:
ResponderEliminarComments:
Andres Gonzalez: I do agree when you say that we may encoubter that situation someday but the way it is solved in the story is to unrealistic.
ALexa: We do fight, but family feuds over land are distinct conflict than those of gossiping and secrets, therefore, the way of solving such problems can't be reflected on the story.
Jose Pablo Murillo: Same story, but I still disagrre, famiy feuds are not solved the same way bullting and high schol problems are.
Alex Silva
ResponderEliminarNovember 1, 2009
Literature
Block F
“The Interlopers” Blog
In my opinion, Saki’s story “The Interlopers” should be included in textbooks all over the country for two main reasons: the story presents a good outline of the theme of conflict and reconciliation; and its twist ending is a prime example of irony, specifically of the dramatic type.
First, the theme of conflict and resolution is an interesting theme to explore. In “The Interlopers”, two men who have known nothing but hate for the other are forced into a mutually dire situation. Their predicament is highlighted by the fact that if one of the other’s men arrive first, the other man will surely die. Realizing that neither of them want to die, the rivals (Ulrich and Georg) decide to put aside their differences. With this resolution, Saki presents the second part of the theme: reconciliation.
However, in an extremely ironic twist of fate [spoiler alert], the two men are found not by men, but a pack of wolves. There are many ways one can view this action: is Saki trying to say that reconciliation is futile? Is he saying that change can come too late? Or is he simply being humorous?
“The Interlopers” is a story that parallels many others, from science fiction (the “Halo” franchise of videogames) to modern day news stories. However, there seems to be a timeless, humorous quality to it that, in conclusion, would make it a perfect candidate for inclusion in modern day textbooks, from America to Costa Rica.
Paola Esquivel
ResponderEliminarNovember 10, 2009
Block D
(ABSENT)
Blog- The Interlopers
I believe that Saki’s story, The Interlopers, would appeal to high school students because it is a story of how too people can set their differences aside, and forget what happened in the past, and become friends. People have to learn this when they are still young, so that they don’t have to bear others any grudge when the problem wasn’t even between them, like in the story, when the problem was really their families’.
This story teaches high school students that people can forget about their differences, especially in a situation like this, when the problem wasn’t even between them, but between their families. Students are able to learn in this story that two people that are supposed to be enemies, because of a feud between their families, don’t necessarily have to be enemies, because truly, there is no reason why they should be mad at one another. It’s important that they know that no one is responsible for the actions of their families.
This story compare to two other stories I have read before: Romeo and Juliet, and The Most Dangerous Game. This story relates to Romeo and Juliet because in both stories two families have a feud between them, and the younger generations are hence expected to be enemies. One of the characters (Georg) says: “No one living can remember seeing a Znaeym and a von Gradwitz talking to one another in friendship.” This shows that that the people all expect Georg and Ulrich to be enemies. This story also realtes to The Most Dangerous Game because at the beginning, both characters want to kill another human being: one another. It’s not exactly like the hunting General Zaroff practiced, but it is very similar.
Tomas: I agree with you that this story would appeal to high school students because of its suspense. It is also true that some of them could relate to this story in some way. I also like that you referred to the surprise ending in your blog. This is an important part of the story. You could also mention how this shows that fate is fate, and we cannot change it. We expected Georg and Ulrich to live, now that they were friends, but it was all part of fate.
Silvia: I liked the fact that you mentioned that when Ulrich and Georg finally become friends, they aren’t able to experience their friendship. After so many years, he 2 families end the feud, but they never get to show the rest of the people.
Mariela G: I agree with you that the story shows how people always use violence and aggressiveness to sole their issues, and that is something I hadn’t thought about. This story would help high school students reflect on the fact that they should find more passive ways to end their conflict, so this is something that would make the story appeal to high school students even more.
Alex Silva Comments:
ResponderEliminarTUSSI: I agree with the "Romeo and Juliet" paragraph. Not only is it a good example of family feuds, it is also a good example of irony, since the families reconcile after the death of their children.
IGNACIO: Nice way to get a little controversial.
ARTURO: Might want to work on your writing. It felt very...immature and uneducated.
I think this story is funny. The wolves eat them when they think they are People
ResponderEliminar-Jacob Hanson:)
I concur. BRAINZZZZZ!
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